Lemons Texas...

[jonheese]

 

[thebigjimsho]

Folks forget how big the 5.0 Mustangs were from the early 80s into the mid 90s. Many Chevy guys came over. My two-Z28-owning buddy even had an '89 LX 5.0. After getting his ass kicked in his (very lame) '84 Z28, he said: "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em".

SHOs make those all a moot point.

 

[Ian Macoomb]

???

I have owned three Mustangs, two Z28s, two Corvettes, and various other Pontiacs, Oldsmobiles, Chevys, Chryslers (well, one 340 Duster), and an AMC AMX. Plus all of the SHOs and a 911 and now the LGT.

That's cause you're old.

 

[1badsho]

That's cause you're old.

Well **** ... if your calling Ron old .... and I think I am older than he .. I must be really OLD LMAO

 

[Ian Macoomb]

Well **** ... if your calling Ron old .... and I think I am older than he .. I must be really OLD LMAO

Your logic is correct.

 

[drivinhard]

It's the old adage: when you are young with no $$$ you have time, when you are older with $$$, you have no time.

somehow I skipped from having time and no $$ to having no time and no $$ either.

 

[RonPorter]

somehow I skipped from having time and no $$ to having no time and no $$ either.

A house, then children, will do that!!

For Don, are you over 60? I hit that a few weeks ago!

 

[Ian Macoomb]

A house, then children, will do that!!

A house and wife will do that alone. Children just add to the money drain.

 

[krek]

These doofs keep it up and that very nice track SHO will be crushed at a future event.

The 97 car is entered in the ChumpCar event at TMS this weekend. ChumpCar has a $1,500 claiming rule at the end of the race and then they auction the car off with the proceeds going to charity.

That could be interesting if the car does well.

 

[K-Dawg]

Saw these links on SHOClub:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/pi...-feats-of-the-24-hours-of-lemons-dallas-pt-1/
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/pi...-feats-of-the-24-hours-of-lemons-dallas-pt-2/

 

[jonheese]

SHO-related highlights from the article:

10. Making a stellar SHO look like Crap (Team: Red Rocket Ratnest Revival, pictured above): Perhaps I got it backward, this car should be in the top spot. This SHO may look like a junker, but it won the race. And the last LeMons race in Houston. And its driven to the past three races (or more) on its own power, with current Texas registration: it passed Judge Scott on his way to the LeMons race in New Orleans. So while team leader and SHO-guru Sergio Perfetti definitely knows his stuff, he keeps it real. Real stock and deceptive. He got out of the judging area with zero penalties, because this motor looks so damn crappy and sounds so damn stock. Nice job, dude.

8. Horn Pad *** Intercom button (Team: El Toro Loco): It used to be that rolling a Taurus SHO to the inspection area was cause for giggles, but no longer. These Bulls get more serious with every race, and the LeMons engineering doesn’t lie. These guys had something really cool in the cabin: the stock wheel was de-bagged and re-wired to activate their in-car communication system. Need to tell your teammates about the **** who damn near ran you off the track? Honk the horn, start yelling and take the Bull by the horns. Sure this SHO has a Yamaha under the hood, but there’s pure genius in the cabin.

3. Stupid Insane Cooling (Team: Live Oak Nudist Resort): Just like the E21 strut tower brace, those Nudists had a surprise under their, um, trunk lids for me. This time it was their super-cheating Taurus SHO: known for its insane power, a super aggressive exhaust note and the ability to launch out of a corner like it has a limited slip differential. So the extra engine and transaxle coolers, oil pumps and filter housings (using the surprisingly crappy Orange Cans of Death) is necessary considering the SHO’s less than durable transaxle. While this setup looks bad with the Optima battery making it worse, they hit the track un-penalized. The Nudists can bribe like no other: free meals for everyone is not unheard of. With their past goodwill in mind and the 1.75 liter bottle of Chivas Regal in my luggage, I had no problem giving them a clean bill of health.

1. The SHO-Stang (Team: Blue Oval Cult): Even the biggest Ford hater has much respect for what people do with the Fox Body Mustang and the Yamaha motor in the Taurus SHO. So why not combine the two? Cut a gigantic hole in the firewall, build a new one in the cabin (a la Econoline van) throw in the SHO motor with a Ranger transmission and call it a day. This thing is completely, totally, unquestionably sick. And more than a little slick: even the stock 5.0 Mustang fuel rails were retained in the SHO-transplant. Considering four cylinder Mustangs can be competitive, the SHO-Stang has a future once the bugs get worked out. But you’ll never hear a better sounding SHO: turn this motor north-south, run a Mustang exhaust to it and the angry-exotic nature of the Yamaha V6 truly shines.

The best part? "...the ability to launch out of a corner like it has a limited slip differential." Uhhh... That's cause IT DOES! Well, automatic torque-biasing differential, same difference (pardon the pun?).

 

[krek]

The 97 SHO got 10 penalty laps at ChumpCar (the second highest awarded) and is so far out of contention that claiming shouldn't be an issue.

 

[1badsho]

A house, then children, will do that!!

For Don, are you over 60? I hit that a few weeks ago!

54 in a few mths ......started my sho journey in the 30's ... some kids never grow up

Anyone have a 91+ .... black with mocha leather sitting around in there back yard that they arent using ???:angelnot:

 

[1badsho]

The 97 SHO got 10 penalty laps at ChumpCar (the second highest awarded) and is so far out of contention that claiming shouldn't be an issue.

First a couple of disclaimers ...... I havent spoken to the owners of my old car after the first lemon race .... owner called me for a guy to do some minor repairs .... I refered him to someone .... who will be nameless

Secondly ... I dont endorse a car like my old 97 .... ( the number was created by me for the NASA racing that I did at sebring ) that has the mods that I did to over the years I had it and have it race in a race like this

Lastly .... I use to drive this car .... this car in NASA HDPE III group was one of the fastest cars in a corner .. a little slower in the long straights ... ( against vets and vipers and mustangs ) .... So i just dont get it how this car wasnt fast on the track or finished 9th .....

Rumor has it that this 97 car was transported to a famous SHO GOD TECH after a head gasket issue with the first lemon race it ran and had all these extra things done to it to insure one thing ... make it run cool .... which it did ..... that the engine was tuned and massage for more horse power and make it run faster

I know it had some brake problems in this last race and was blacked flaged .... but this car should have been lighting fast even against prof track cars let alone the lemon cars.

So I guess my question is .... are the other lemon cars at the last event ( sergio excluded for I know he know how to drive and maintain a car ) high perf track cars or lemon cars ?? ... or did the so called "Prof" driver just not know how to drive


I dont get it ..... Sergio your thoughts on this ..... and if u were behing the wheel of my old 97 .... and assuming it didnt have any mechanical issues ..... your thoughts sir ?? .... u were there .....

 

[blue92]

54 in a few mths ......started my sho journey in the 30's ... some kids never grow up

Anyone have a 91+ .... black with mocha leather sitting around in there back yard that they arent using ???:angelnot:

61 here in August started my Taurus lovin' days in 1988 with my 87 Taurus LX that I had pegged daily.

Keep your eyes peeled on the Texas craig's lists there is usually some SHOs on there all the time. Best part about a Texas car is no rust, unless the car is from the coast.

So i just dont get it how this car wasnt fast on the track or finished 9th .....

It finished 9th because the professional drivers hired to drive it were a bunch of dirt track racers, they dive bombed people into the corners and were drifting into a lot of the corners. Not the way to drive a Lemons (endurance) race.

And Sergio told me his team can win driving the 97 car.

 

[jonheese]

Anyone have a 91+ .... black with mocha leather sitting around in there back yard that they arent using ???:angelnot:

Well, considering that only 45 Mocha '91s were made with black leather (48 with black 50/50), I'd say that a Mocha Plus w/black leather would be a pretty rare beast indeed.

Of course, an interior swap is pretty trivial, so assuming you could find a Mocha Plus... But only 1351 Mocha '91s were made, so there would be even fewer Mocha Pluses (I don't have the exact figures)...

 

[blue92]

The 97 SHO got 10 penalty laps at ChumpCar (the second highest awarded) and is so far out of contention that claiming shouldn't be an issue.

97 at ChumpCar at TMS.

btw they are out of the race with rf wheel bearing failure.

 

[K-Dawg]

Lastly .... I use to drive this car .... this car in NASA HDPE III group was one of the fastest cars in a corner .. a little slower in the long straights ... ( against vets and vipers and mustangs ) .... So i just dont get it how this car wasnt fast on the track or finished 9th .....

Rumor has it that this 97 car was transported to a famous SHO GOD TECH after a head gasket issue with the first lemon race it ran and had all these extra things done to it to insure one thing ... make it run cool .... which it did ..... that the engine was tuned and massage for more horse power and make it run faster

I know it had some brake problems in this last race and was blacked flaged .... but this car should have been lighting fast even against prof track cars let alone the lemon cars.

So I guess my question is .... are the other lemon cars at the last event ( sergio excluded for I know he know how to drive and maintain a car ) high perf track cars or lemon cars ?? ... or did the so called "Prof" driver just not know how to drive

There's a lot more to an endurance race than having the outright fastest car out there. The car has to last the whole race intact, you have to spend as much time on the track as you can, can't be a ******* and get penalized, etc. Oh, and your drivers have to know how to drive.

 

[RonPorter]

There's a lot more to an endurance race than having the outright fastest car out there. The car has to last the whole race intact, you have to spend as much time on the track as you can, can't be a ******* and get penalized, etc. Oh, and your drivers have to know how to drive.

+1

Sergio has lots of experience, plus he and his crew learned how to get the job done.

 

[1badsho]

Well, considering that only 45 Mocha '91s were made with black leather (48 with black 50/50), I'd say that a Mocha Plus w/black leather would be a pretty rare beast indeed.

Of course, an interior swap is pretty trivial, so assuming you could find a Mocha Plus... But only 1351 Mocha '91s were made, so there would be even fewer Mocha Pluses (I don't have the exact figures)...

Not mocha with black .... but a 91 + black in color with beige leather ... thats was my original SHO ... I traded with another guy who traded me his black SHO with black leather .... and cash ..... at Doug L place in Georgia.

The guy who bought my original SHO lived in Ohio .... and than sold it ... to whom I dont know.

But I would love to find a 91 + black SHO with beige leather interior !:sun: