The white 90 that My buddy just got has a 3.2 in it. Since it ****** oil everywhere we worked out a deal where Im going to swap the orange cars old 3.0's in it and in exchange I keep the 3.2.
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The white 90 that My buddy just got has a 3.2 in it. Since it ****** oil everywhere we worked out a deal where Im going to swap the orange cars old 3.0's in it and in exchange I keep the 3.2.
SHOspazz92
Banned
Why wouldn't he just fix the 3.2?
Can you verify that the damage was done prior to the dyno?
Having BTDT, I say it's time to switch platforms. Something that will run 12's for $500-$1,000... 11's for $1,500-$2,000... 10's for less than you're about to spend. And forget race gas... E85 only.
SHOtime2511
CGP
Your going to spend a metric shit ton of money and be let down by how little net gain you see over what you have now.
I can say for a fact by the sounds this motor made a year ago when I started it after sitting for 5 years it was the cylinder walls being ate at. Who knows. Either way the car has not been driven any really since the 13.5 pass so I can say the car made a 13.5 pass @ 106 with these cylinders.
I would go E85 but there is ZERO e85 stations around me.
And here is for all the people who say "you can go faster for cheaper"
SHOforum really has no come across a person like me. Or at least not from what I have seen. These cars have hidden potential but nobody has motivation to do anything. I am not trying to be the fastest. I am not trying to break 9's. I do realize I could own a mustang and go 10's by now but what fun is that?
People said getting into 13's in N/a form was something hard to do and I not only broke into it, I did it without much effort. I like doing the impossible, And personally a 12 second taurus gets more attention then a 10 second mustang.
Wait and see what a 280-300hp taurus that weighs 2600 pounds does with a real suspension, and real tires under it. People think 12's are hard to run, Ill run that before the giggle juice.
SHOforum really has no come across a person like me. Or at least not from what I have seen. These cars have hidden potential but nobody has motivation to do anything. I am not trying to be the fastest. I am not trying to break 9's. I do realize I could own a mustang and go 10's by now but what fun is that?
People said getting into 13's in N/a form was something hard to do and I not only broke into it, I did it without much effort. I like doing the impossible, And personally a 12 second taurus gets more attention then a 10 second mustang.
Wait and see what a 280-300hp taurus that weighs 2600 pounds does with a real suspension, and real tires under it. People think 12's are hard to run, Ill run that before the giggle juice.
Most of us want street-able cars. TBH, it's not too entirely difficult to make a shell go fast. It's not that it's "hard" to do, but in reality, most do not want to strip a car and build a motor that now has lots of unobtanium. It's cool to run fast times, but if that 10-sec Mustang has a full enterior and AC, I'd be drawn to that.
Also, the amount of money you'll be pouring into it turns a lot of people off due to what you actually gain. Granted, I didn't build my car for cheap, but I will be making a good bit of it back with its sale (without parting).
I'd hate to see you look back years from now and realize what you could have done. What fun is running 10's in a Mustang? How about improving your driving with monstrous power and the raw feel of acceleration? It's fun.
No E85? Buy it by the barrel. It'll be cheaper in the long run and the motor wil, like it better.
Also, the amount of money you'll be pouring into it turns a lot of people off due to what you actually gain. Granted, I didn't build my car for cheap, but I will be making a good bit of it back with its sale (without parting).
I'd hate to see you look back years from now and realize what you could have done. What fun is running 10's in a Mustang? How about improving your driving with monstrous power and the raw feel of acceleration? It's fun.
No E85? Buy it by the barrel. It'll be cheaper in the long run and the motor wil, like it better.
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SinisterSHO
Rust free
you never have any ******* money anyways, so how are you going to get the money to build a motor?
All you naysayers, give him a break. Why drive cars at all, you can get a Hayabusa and run 9's without ANY mod money? Different strokes for different folks. The quest in life is not about going the fastest for cheapest. I applaud anyone who wants to take a different path than the majority. I think we all have a bit of that in us or we would not have been attracted to the SHO in the first place. I say, ZaCH SHOULD pour every last bit of effort and every spare bit of money he cares to into making his SHO faster. There is not a person on this forum who has the fastest/best performing/best bang for the buck vehicle that is all things to all people. That car doesn't exist. If modding a SHO brings a person happiness, who are we to discourage him.
We already know Zach is not going to listen to a word anyone says to the contrary, so you might as well support him. Look how much he has matured in his short time with us. Do you think the same would have happened if he were with a different platform? As everyone says time and again, it is not the cars, but the people that make this community so great. Lets show it.
Zach, build it!
We already know Zach is not going to listen to a word anyone says to the contrary, so you might as well support him. Look how much he has matured in his short time with us. Do you think the same would have happened if he were with a different platform? As everyone says time and again, it is not the cars, but the people that make this community so great. Lets show it.
Zach, build it!
SHOtime2511
CGP
Remember that Ernie guy,with the salt flat car.
Not what I meant at all. But did anyone spit in his face and say it cant be done and your numbers are made up? Of course they did.... Because SHOforum is full of naysayer douche's.
I say that with love.
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BlackonBlack89
SHO Member
Wat can go 12s for 1k?
Last I checked wrx/sti's aren't free
Last I checked wrx/sti's aren't free
Wat can go 12s for 1k?
Last I checked wrx/sti's aren't free
Good point. I paid 950$ for my turd and probably 6000$ put me into the mid 13's
SHOspazz92
Banned
Personally, When Zach ran his 13.5 I had aspirations for about 2 days to break his record (N/A). Then I realized how unstreetable and unsafe it would be to drive the car on the street. My car is already gutted (Methodically and still safely) and on the edge of not being street-able, so forget it. I think what I'll do instead of continue to race my car in the matter of which it was built for. I'll also purchase a car that is much cheaper to run fast 1/4 times in, has A/C, radio, airbags and doesn't rattle. Apparently I'll be completely bored while doing it (Because it is not fun to go 13's in anything but a Taurus) but that is the price I pay for making sense I guess.
-Sam
Wat can go 12s for 1k?
Last I checked wrx/sti's aren't free
You know exactly what he meant. His point is exactly why your SHO probably has not been back to the drag strip. All that money to run low 13's on slicks. (Been there, done that...No thanks!)
Regardless, best of luck to Zach. Hope it goes well but if I were you.... This would not be my number 1 priority right now.
-Sam
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BlackonBlack89
SHO Member
Yea I know what he means but everyone doesnt make money like that
Wat can go 12s for 1k?
Last I checked wrx/sti's aren't free
At any rate, vehicle purchase price will have to be taken into account, but... (below)
With this next round of mods, you'll be in the range of something like an STi that will be faster, drive more comfortably, have AC, a full interior, and do more than just drag racing well. If you still want to remove weight, there is a thread specifically for that on IWSTI... Then you can be EVEN FASTAAR. A plethora of aftermarket support makes things relatively cheap and easy to get. Oh... And you won't be worried about breaking shit (WRX not included. Already shredded 3rd gear on a car I tuned this year).
I've got a buddy running 10's on an old DSM and I assure you he has spent less.
Personally, When Zach ran his 13.5 I had aspirations for about 2 days to break his record (N/A). Then I realized how unstreetable and unsafe it would be to drive the car on the street. My car is already gutted (Methodically and still safely) and on the edge of not being street-able, so forget it. I think what I'll do instead of continue to race my car in the matter of which it was built for. I'll also purchase a car that is much cheaper to run fast 1/4 times in, has A/C, radio, airbags and doesn't rattle. Apparently I'll be completely bored while doing it (Because it is not fun to go 13's in anything but a Taurus) but that is the price I pay for making sense I guess.
-Sam
Pretty much what I'm getting at.
To add to that; I realized a long time ago what the SHO is good for when you balance it all out. This is why I kept mine a relatively comfortable driver that is clean, has ego killing power, and handles well. When you referenced getting attention in an earlier post... I run 14's and get plenty of it.
Agreed. All that is to say, we'll cheer you on, but spending this kind of money on something that really only does one thing (not really well I might add) will probably wear on you. You'll finally desire something else and realize that money you'll get for you car/parts won't really put you in the game to upgrade without coming out of pocket more. I talk to people about diminishing returns regularly being a local tuner here... Here's where yours really starts.
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This is not about how much faster I can go with something else. Its about how fast a 90's ford taurus can go. Im doing because I want to. I realize the car is not streetable which is why is was taken off insurance yesterday. The car is being purpose built for the drag strip now. You can try to talk me out of it but like Tim said I am not going to listen to you so you all are wasting your breath.
Sometime in a couple months Ill be in pocession of a white 90 that will be built for the sutoX course. Maybe then you all will "respect" a purpose built car like Sams since everyone likes to nut over it.
Maybe when I run low 12's/high 11's people might have a different view on why I did what I did... or not... either way im proving it to myself that I can accomplish my goals.
Sometime in a couple months Ill be in pocession of a white 90 that will be built for the sutoX course. Maybe then you all will "respect" a purpose built car like Sams since everyone likes to nut over it.
Maybe when I run low 12's/high 11's people might have a different view on why I did what I did... or not... either way im proving it to myself that I can accomplish my goals.
Personally, When Zach ran his 13.5 I had aspirations for about 2 days to break his record (N/A).
-Sam
You know for the longest time I remember your low 14 ET and low trap speed. (96?)
I thought your car would of had a high 13 in it. Until I ran 13.6 @ 99.
I dont think your car in its form has lower then a 13.5, not talking shit, just my god honest opinion. Throw some real tires on it and crack 1.8-1.9 60" and you would go 13.5's but you dont have the motor to do it with anything higher of a 60ft. but I would love for you to prove me wrong
ShadetreeSHOguy
Postwhore
Hey Zach, Y U NO run me no mo?
SHOspazz92
Banned
You know for the longest time I remember your low 14 ET and low trap speed. (96?)
I thought your car would of had a high 13 in it. Until I ran 13.6 @ 99.
I dont think your car in its form has lower then a 13.5, not talking shit, just my god honest opinion. Throw some real tires on it and crack 1.8-1.9 60" and you would go 13.5's but you dont have the motor to do it with anything higher of a 60ft. but I would love for you to prove me wrong
14.1@96 , Missing 4th with 200 (at least )feet of track left. I was also launching at idle (The video is on youtube). I also don't powershift, no lift shift or break my car. It is driven quite easy on the drag strip.
And you are probably right...but here is the thing, I don't care. The car excels at Autocross, so I'll take what I can get. I'll drive something completely different if I want to go drag racing again...as having a fully prepared, gutted, cammed, loud "RACE CAR" with a roll bar that only runs 13's is not anything to brag about. My nissan is much faster anyways.
-Sam
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