Want better MPG? Change your oil!

[shojuan]

petrolium oil is the reason you are paying close to $3.00
a gallon these days, stop paying for petrolium products for your car
start using AMERICAN made synthetic oil.
save money , save engine failure
save horrible downtime,
save you head from worrying if your oil is too thin,
use 5w30 and beat up your car with confidence
cause synthetic oil is many times better at $6
a quart compared to $1.50 fossil oil pumped out
from the ground. :hpoop:

What do you think synthetic oil basestocks are sythesized from? Certainly not alcohols because that's not cost effective. For better or worse fossil hydrocarbons are going to be at the heart of most manmade organic compounds, refined or synthesized, until the fossil supplies are dried up/mined to the point that we are forced to go to the biomass for all the organic product we take for granted. Fortunately everything can be synthesized more or less from a few alcohols. But the cost effectiveness, let alone the infrastructure, is just not even close to taking the place of fossil HC's.

$3/gallon gasoline has nothing to do with your choice of motor oil.

Me personally, I prefer synthetic. I have quite a few oil leaks that I will hopefully get around to repairing soon but in the meantime I have made a compromise by using Motorcraft semi-synthetic and I have been happy with it FWIW, Walmart is again carrying Motorcraft oil, albeit at a higher price than before they switched to calling it semisynthetic. It's just shy of $2/qt. Autozone is $2.49/qt. When my SHO stops losing oil it'll be back to $8 a quart redline baby!

To add fodder for thought, a good synthetic 10W/30 will flow better when cold than a dino 5W/30.

 

[Frankiek3]

5w30 and 10w30 are the recommend oil weights

I like running 10w30, but I just bought 5w30, and I'll see how that will go.

I was thinking 5w30 is thin but I don't run my car too hard

bobistheoilguy.com is a good site for this stuff

what filters do you guys use? I've been using non e-cores. I have a bosch ready to go in.

 

[shojuan]

I ran 5w30 last winter because the walmart motorcraft was labeled semisynthetic but the 10W30 wasn't. Who knows, maybe the oil never changed and just the labelling. Castrol Syntec was called a "full synthetic" some time ago when in reality the basestocks were just highly refined...I guess they felt to the point they could legally call it a synthetic

I use walmart Supertech ST8A filters. For the price a darn good filter. They did change the design though...about 6-9 months ago. The newer ST8A filters are shorter than the old ones and peaking inside looks a bit different too. Anybody have more thoughts on that change?

5w30 and 10w30 are the recommend oil weights

I like running 10w30, but I just bought 5w30, and I'll see how that will go.

I was thinking 5w30 is thin but I don't run my car too hard

bobistheoilguy.com is a good site for this stuff

what filters do you guys use? I've been using non e-cores. I have a bosch ready to go in.

 

[RAYJAY]

just a thought what is the cleaning effect of the full synthetic verse the semi synthetic verse the reg petroleum oil

also reg petroleum oil verses the high mileage oils


Jeff

 

[SHOZ123]

If you want to clean the motor then Auto-Rx is the way to go. Synthetic will keep it that way. If you have a dirty motor and synthetic cleans it up, it was indeed filthy.

I wore out my rod bearings on the V8 in 45k while trying the 0w30 out for size. May not have been that but ........

 

[Toolman]

FWIW, I have always used 5w30 in the turbo, for 50k+ miles. Try and tell me your car is pushed harder. Aint gonna happen. Remember, my oil also goes up and feeds my turbo. With 2500-3000 miles oil changes, my bearings looked pretty good for all the abuse they had taken, and the piston skirts and cylinder walls were great too (despite my HORRIBLY rich tune all that time).

Here is what it comes down to people. Use QUALITY oil (I will never use synthetic in a SHO engine again, not after two rod bearing failures at track events with it), and change it when you should, and all will be well.

 

[voogru]

anything that has to do with oil and vehicles is bound to bring up some black eyes and fat lips, we all know this, I dont mind jumping in and tagging a few loud mouths, were it hurts,
one fact that me and everyone else here will have to agree with is- the giant petrolium oil companies have us running around with myths lies and manipulation with all thier products... i/e we wont dare run regular oil i/e penzoil 10/15 thousand miles cause we dont want to replace rod bearings or whtever else may fail in our engines.
so we run around looking for deals on oil wasting time and changing oil often cause we care about our cars.
why do they say change oil 3000 miles? why????? cmon really ask urself why?
PROFITS!!!!!!!!!!
THIS WEEKEND 08/13/05 THE OIL COMPANIES TOP 3 PROFIT IN THE BILLIONS!!!! THANKS STUPID AMERICANS!!!

 

[voogru]

anything that has to do with oil and vehicles is bound to bring up some black eyes and fat lips, we all know this, I dont mind jumping in and tagging a few loud mouths, were it hurts,
Will using AMSOIL Motor Oils increase gas mileage?

Tighter government regulations and increases in engine manufacturers’ demands are calling for more fuel efficient lubricants. AMSOIL Motor Oils reduce friction and drag better than petroleum oils, resulting in significant fuel economy increases. In a recent 1.2 million mile demonstration, AMSOIL Lubricants showed a 4.5% increase in gas mileage. Other tests have shown increases of as much as 15% under certain weather and driving conditions. Yet, because every vehicle is different, as are driving habits and conditions, it is difficult to accurately project an exact increase. :corn:


one fact that me and everyone else here will have to agree with is- the giant petrolium oil companies have us running around with myths lies and manipulation with all thier products... i/e we wont dare run regular oil i/e penzoil 10/15 thousand miles cause we dont want to replace rod bearings or whatever else may fail in our engines.
so we run around looking for deals on oil wasting time and changing oil often cause we care about our cars.
why do they say change oil 3000 miles? why????? cmon really ask urself why?
PROFITS!!!!!!!!!!
THIS WEEKEND 08/13/05 THE OIL COMPANIES TOP 3 PROFIT IN THE BILLIONS!!!! THANKS STUPID AMERICANS!!!
I WONT GIVE THEM COMPANIES ONE DOLLAR AND HAVENT IN 5 YRS
I dont want extra work in my shop cause of oil related failures,
so you guys can do whatever you want.
my life went from getting chased by my local police task force looking for
my drums of waste oil, and changing every other weekend oil in one of my
5 cars to sipmply adding quality oil and changing my filters every year
or 12 thousand miles. its so simple,
and to the ones that say thier engines wasted rod bearings, I will be abusing my street driven sho on 1.5 mile dirt course with 6k on my 0w30 series 2000 AMSOIL and filter, will post results,
remeber AMERICA hasnt made any new refineries since the 70s we are buying expensive saudi oil.

 

[voogru]

petrolium oil makes sludge.
petrolium oil is cheap.
petrloium oil has low flash point.
petrolium oil has lower fire point.
petrolium oil between manufactures are so different.
petrolium oil change=$20 new engine=$2500 bare bones stocker

 

[voogru]

Q. An individual has posted a message on an Internet message board that said AMSOIL motor oils "lack sufficient EP additives" and the "quality of the product has dropped" in the last few years. Due to lack of EP additives and the the drop in product quality he "wiped out bearings, pistons, rocker bushings, etc."

A. No truth whatsoever. AMSOIL INC. has continually improved the performance of its products over the years. The best performing oil we've ever made are the oils we make today. In addition, new technology has allowed us to improve performance as the introduction of our Series 2000 oils demonstrated. Our standard products outperform the competition and the Series 2000 products blow them away.

First of all, extreme pressure (EP) additives are not typically used in motor oil. EP additives are used in gear lubes and some greases. This is because they contain sulfur or chlorine compounds that become active under engine operating conditions. In this activated state they react with the water found in by-products of combustion, and form acids which are corrosive to engine components such as bearings.

Engine oils typically use antiwear (AW) additives to prevent metal-to-metal contact within an engine. These are commonly zinc and phosphorus compounds (zinc dithiophosphate or ZDP). These additives are different from EP additives because they activate or bond with metal surfaces at lower temperatures and pressures and do not form corrosive acids. EP additives are intended to withstand higher pressures and temperatures than found in engines. AW additives offer more than enough protection for all engine conditions without any of the harmful side effects of EP additives.

AMSOIL INC. has always used higher quality and a higher level of additives including zinc and phosphorus than most motor oils on the market. The attached tables compare the content of zinc and phosphorus of several popular motor oils for passenger car and racing applications. These additive contents were determined using spectrographic analysis. Results could be verified for accuracy by submitting unused oil for analysis to any independent oil analysis laboratory.

ANTI-WEAR ADDITIVES
SPECTROGRAPHIC ANALYSIS: Passenger Car Motor Oils

Zinc (ppm) Phosphorus (ppm)
AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 0W-30 1599 1288
Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic 5W-30 1070 892
Phillips 66 Trop Artic 10W-30 922 784
Pennzoil 5W-30 1170 905
Quaker State 10W-30 4X4 Synthetic Blend 1078 856
Castrol Syntec 5W-50 972 856


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ANTI-WEAR ADDITIVES
SPECTROGRAPHIC ANALYSIS: Racing Oils

Zinc (ppm) Phosphorus (ppm)
AMSOIL Series 2000 Synthetic 20W-50 Racing Oil 1675 1380
Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic 15W-50 1500 1174
Quaker State High Perf. Synthetic Blend 15W-50 1030 960
Havoline Formula 3 20W-50 1085 834
Castrol Syntec 5W-50 972 856
Valvoline Racing 20W-50 1192 1077

Quantity of AW additives alone, however, will not make one lubricant perform better than a competitive lubricant. It's the combination of blended synthetic basestocks with a perfectly balanced package of the highest quality additives that allows AMSOIL to consistently outperform the competition in all aspects, including wear protection.(NOTE: Perfectly balanced means that using an aftermarket oil additive will not improve and may actually harm the performance of AMSOIL motor oils.)

The following results from Four Ball Wear Tests will demonstrate how effective AMSOIL Synthetic Motor Oils are at wear protection compared to other popular oils. The Four Ball Wear Test is a lubricant industry standard (ASTM D 4172) test that compares relative wear prevention characteristics of new lubricants at specified conditions.



AMSOIL products clearly offer better wear protection than competitive synthetics and much better protection than conventional oils. Engines can fail due to mechanical problems even when using AMSOIL. AMSOIL Motor Oils, however, in over twenty-five years have never caused an engine failure. If you ever hear someone say AMSOIL caused their engine, bearings, pistons, etc. to fail, they are wrong.

Federal Mogul Corporation, a manufacturer of engine bearings, pistons, connecting rods and other engine parts, studied over 7,000 case histories of bearing distress and engine failure and never found engine oil to be the cause of a failure. Dirt, the number one cause of engine failure, was found to be responsible for 43.4% of failures, and insufficient lubrication, the second most common cause of failure, was responsible for 16.6% of failures. Insufficient lubrication is the general term used when not enough oil gets through to the engine to lubricate it (lack of oil volume).

Some causes of insufficient lubrication include oxidation, oil thickening, sludge, cold temperature related dry starts, etc. These, however, are also areas where AMSOIL motor oils out perform the competition. If an engine breaks down with AMSOIL motor oil in it, it would have broken down sooner using another oil! That's fact!

 

[60kmaintenance]

I'm going to try some Rotella, it's more for motorcycles and stuff, but it's some of the best oil there is to buy. It's 15-40w, which is a stupid label cause it's thinner then most 10-30w you'll find.

 

[matt59]

I hate reading long messages, call it A.D.D. or what ever.
In one sentence why is Amsoil better than Walmart full synthetic?

 

[TRSCobra]

cause it costs more

 

[60kmaintenance]

Test.

 

[LiLGhettoSmurf]

This guy must be a rep from Amsoil,

 

[tex-par]

hate to admit it but I changed to Amoil in my convertable and went from27 mpg to 33...

 

[yamapowered]

I hate reading long messages, call it A.D.D. or what ever.
In one sentence why is Amsoil better than Walmart full synthetic?

ok you asked for one sentace here it goes,
Amsoil has a oil change interval of 25,000 miles/1 year, and thier filters last 12,500/ 6 months.

What does Wal Mart oil recommend?
Javier

 

[yamapowered]

hate to admit it but I changed to Amoil in my convertable and went from27 mpg to 33...

I did the same thing, but I was using Amsoil 10w30 and went to thier 5w30 and mpg went from 26/27 to 32/33 in my 1991 SHO.
thats saving money in more ways than one.
Javier

 

[yamapowered]

This guy must be a rep from Amsoil,

Im a simple Amsoil dealer that uses all thier products on my fleet of cars/trucks.
I try to help and educate the willing ones.
All that I can say in the past 5 years I realize the benefits of using Amsoil
products, and will never use regular petrolium oil in anything I own ever again.
Javier

 

[cub 1947]

Enginme life

388,00 miles on original engine and transmission, have changed 3! valve shims,without sludge;consumption is a qt. every 700 miles, mainly valve seals and leaks. Engine has had 10w40 winter, and 20w50 summer, Castro Syntec blend every 3,000 miles. Transmission has Redline ATX still shifts well. Enjoy your 30w, $7 oil, 15k changes and changing your rod bearings and oil pumps.