Racing Seats...Whats available?

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black92

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Becasue some people like Mac, and I dont want to send the money until we know the seats are going to fit the bracket. We cant afford buying things to find out they dont fit properly.
 

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Almost all aftermarket racing seats use a 4 bolt seat to slider bracket design. If the bolt hole didn't line up you could always redrill the proper holes.
 

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The bracket I had for my E21 BMW wouldnt be redrillible. And the SHO usesthe same bracket design. Redrilling into a seat isnt very easy. I would recommend buying a bracket ans seat that match. Might save a lot of the trouble
 

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I do believe that you are in for a surprise. They were $80 a piece when I bought them a couple years ago.
 

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PAracer said:
I do believe that you are in for a surprise. They were $80 a piece when I bought them a couple years ago.

yah, they aren't cheap. You got the Taurus ones, right? Did you need to modify them to get them to work?

Ian
 

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I did get the Taurus ones. I forget which one it was, but one of them did not fit in the car properly. I had to cut it apart and reweld to clear the center console.
 

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PAracer said:
I did get the Taurus ones. I forget which one it was, but one of them did not fit in the car properly. I had to cut it apart and reweld to clear the center console.
I put Corbeau brackets/sliders on my '89 SHO back in the late '90's. They fit quite well, tho I recall having to enlarge the holes for the inboard floor mount bolts on both brackets. They were about $65 each when I bought them.

I did not like that the Corbeau brackets only latched one slider, instead of both, as OEM seat sliders do. This made the Corbeau seat well-fixed on one side, but floaty on the other. I eventually bought two extra slider lock arms from Corbeau and installed them on the unlatched sliders with a steel wire connecting the two.

4-point belts, where do I start? Many years back, Jochen Rindt was killed in a crash at Monza; his lap belt ended up near his neck, rupturing his liver on the way. Jochen refused to wear the sub strap, effectively turning his 5-point harness into a 4-point. You're very probably safer in an OEM seat and 3-point belt then a 4-point belt. 4-point belts, such as Schroth, are probably just fine for low speed autocross use, but I would not expect them to protect me in a high speed collision.

Using 5-point harnesses without a roll bar or cage greatly adds to the injury or death risk if you're going to participate in track events where a vehicle roll-over resulting from a high speed off-track excursion is a real possibility. In a 3-point belt, your upper body can lean over to avoid incoming roof structure. In a 5-point harness, your upper body is held rigidly upright, with your skull and spine trying to resist the roof crush; this isn't going to make for a good day at the track. Nobody plans to have a rollover accident, but that generally isn't sufficient to keep them from happening.

About every fourth car I see at track events these days with a 5-point has the shoulder harness, lap belts or sub strap mounted wrong, sometimes potentially dead wrong. Just ask Dale Earnhardt about improper lap belt mounting... Oh right, we can't. NASCAR has quietly mandated that all race teams follow the harness manufacturer's belt mounting recommendations to the letter, and therefore, so should you. I am tired of seeing shoulder harness tails being routed vertically down to the vehicle floorpan; this is a virtual guarantee for a spinal compression injury during even a minor collision. I've seen sub straps routed over the front of OEM seats, instead of down through a hole in the seat pan. You don't get much anti-submarine action unless the sub strap leaves the buckle near vertical and stays that way to the vehicle floorpan.

Corbeau seats have lost their FIA certification; been that way for several years now, and per my last conversation with a Corbeau representative, they don't seem too concerned about it. What does this mean to you? Realistically, probably not much unless you're trying trying to pass tech for a sanctioned road race event. Sort of in the background, you might want to wonder why Corbeau lost their FIA certification? Perhaps because FIA's testing found Corbeau seats wanting for some reason that might ultimately affect your safety?

Something else to consider, the steel tube frame of the Corbeau Forza's makes it near impossible to safely install a seatback brace, which is mandated by most racing safety organizations. The seatback brace lends additional support to the seat structure in the event that crash forces would cause the seat bottom or side mounts to fail.

black92 said:
There are a million good seats out.
Let me fix that for you: "There are a million seats out..." Some of them are good and safe, and a lot of them are neither good, nor safe.

Mac, several folks in this thread have honored you with some very good advise about decisions that may ultimately affect your safety. Please consider them carefully before you make a decision about some bLinG blINg Yo! bright red race seats that is more based on cost, then your safety.
 

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Thanx Gary. I am in the planing process of puting race seats, harnesses and a roll bar/cage in my SHO. Your post answered some of the questions I had and opened my eyes up to things I never even considered. I will keep this post in mind when building my track SHO!!!
 

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I'll be diong research in the near future before I buy my next seat.
Thanks for the tips Gary
 

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