Possible turbo failure..

[marshallma0504]

I wouldn't worry about overheating turbos w/o coolant on start-up. As long as they get oil (foot-to-floor flood clear on start-up to build oil pressure). Vacuum fill your cooling system (look on AMZ for kit). For the rear turbo, I unbolted the steering rack and pushed it back for more room. Draining the reservoir is good practice but I think the two OEM coolants are compatible. Flushing is optional as well IMHO and if you'd drained everything already, you'd have to refill the system to do the flush, then drain and refill.

Yeah I’m going to syringe the turbos before attaching the feed lines as well to make extra sure the bearings get oil. And since I have the coolant drained I’ll do a fill with yellow, and let it get up to temp and see how it looks. At the end of the day a flush would t hurt I’m sure with a new pump.

 

[BradM]

Any oil you squirt into the turbos will just drain out. Just do a flood-clear. It'll be fine.

 

[marshallma0504]

Any oil you squirt into the turbos will just drain out. Just do a flood-clear. It'll be fine.

Alright thank you. Any tips for the timing job? I know some people can’t get the timing right on the crank but you can breifly over advance it like a half tooth and it’ll seat in there. Other than that I have the cracked service manual to follow so it shouldn’t be all that bad as long as I don’t break a bolt knock on wood lol

 

[marshallma0504]

Alright thank you. Any tips for the timing job? I know some people can’t get the timing right on the crank but you can breifly over advance it like a half tooth and it’ll seat in there. Other than that I have the cracked service manual to follow so it shouldn’t be all that bad as long as I don’t break a bolt knock on wood lol

I’m using all OEM guides phasers chains everything as well. Not wanting to do this job twice.

 

[BradM]

Haven't done a timing job. I'll learn from you

 

[marshallma0504]

Haven't done a timing job. I'll learn from you

Sounds great I’ll let you know how it goes

 

[NW2011SHO]

Car now has 137,000 on it and was a FB marketplace find in Detroit so I’m the dummy for buying a car like this in the first place from the shotty rebuild capital of the Midwest. He had a ton of maintenance records including the rear turbo at 90k so I thought it seemed safe but here we are after $6,600 for the car, $800 front turbo, $300 in plugs, fluids, filters etc, $400 rear brakes (all this done myself via YouTube and common sense learning) and $800 for new rims and tires as one of my front rims was bent by a pothole causing serious vibration. Anyone interested in the car and would give me a decent price let me know at this point.

Sounds like standard maintenance for used car with 100000 plus miles. What were you expecting?

 

[marshallma0504]

Sounds like standard maintenance for used car with 100000 plus miles. What were you expecting?

Wasn’t expecting 3 turbo failures in 2 months basically but I’ve been buying components for the timing chains over the past few months. That day was just a bad day and I was frustrated. But still way cheaper and better value than a newer car with a payment I couldn’t afford. I’ll keep the SHO until the engine or trans goes out basically at this point I’m in it for the long haul. 200k here I come, hope it all goes smoothly from here and no more failures

 

[kryptto]

foot-to-floor flood clear on start-up to build oil pressure

@BradM has u all good right here.

 

[marshallma0504]

Well the timing components and both turbos, new oil lines, seals, gaskets, and new crank bolt are all arrived finally after a lot of money and waiting. Except the main tensioner that’s on back order so I’m ordering that on eBay most likely. Disassembly starts when I get that tensioner, and today I’m mounting the front and possibly the rear turbo since those don’t really get in the way of anything. Here’s to hoping it’s all uphill from here! (And yes those bottles are motorcraft yellow not orange.) also never realized how massive the VCT solenoids truly are those things are huge. And I got the new gaskets for those as well.

 

[kryptto]

Well the timing components and both turbos, new oil lines, seals, gaskets, and new crank bolt are all arrived finally after a lot of money and waiting. Except the main tensioner that’s on back order so I’m ordering that on eBay most likely. Disassembly starts when I get that tensioner, and today I’m mounting the front and possibly the rear turbo since those don’t really get in the way of anything. Here’s to hoping it’s all uphill from here! (And yes those bottles are motorcraft yellow not orange.) also never realized how massive the VCT solenoids truly are those things are huge. And I got the new gaskets for those as well.

Looks like my house when doing a job, box filled with parts, gaskets, filters, hoses and anything I can think of.

 

[marshallma0504]

Rear turbo is in, the new quick connect fitting fought me on clicking it but I got it eventually. Front turbo goes in on Friday, then it’s time for the timing job. Thank god I found the service manual online so an amateur like myself can pull it off with some reading and common sense.

 

[marshallma0504]

Also, my rear heat shields don’t seem to make any sense. I have the bigger piece with the 3 bolts, but the part that covers the inlet for the turbo from the manifold does not cover that much of it. It’s just a little shield with 2 bolt holes and a big circle on the end of it. Am I missing the second piece and the previous mechanic just threw a random heat shield on there? I’m confused and don’t want to burn anything up back there. It looks similar to the one in the second picture but not that large.

 

[marshallma0504]

Yeah I do not have this piece at all. The one with the protruding bolt is nowhere to be found.

 

[marshallma0504]

Found it. Should probably buy that too to prevent cooking wires huh

 

[kryptto]

Wait are you possibly telling us that some, not all mechanics will do things for expedience or better, early failure of other parts? Doent shock me.

 

[marshallma0504]

Wait are you possibly telling us that some, not all mechanics will do things for expedience or better, early failure of other parts? Doent shock me.

Makes sense considering the previous owner probably went to a cheap Detroit auto shop.

 

[marshallma0504]

Wait are you possibly telling us that some, not all mechanics will do things for expedience or better, early failure of other parts? Doent shock me.

The best part was, the heat shields weren’t even bolted down either. At least that little one wasn’t.

 

[marshallma0504]

So I’ve started the timing chain process. So far I’ve taken off the intake manifold, and broken a cooling hose since they put the clamp on the underside and while rotating it the plastic collar snapped. On the upside the car now has two brand new turbos fully mounted and all lines connected. Today comes the fun part, the valve covers and the timing cover. Hopefully I don’t break anything else, since $45 for a coolant hose that won’t arrive until Monday was not planned but at least it wasn’t something worse

 

[FrankK]

Just don't force anything. Be patient.