Please HELP!!

[yamasho93]

okay I got spark now, car ran great yesterday was running very nice. went to start it today started up revved up to about 1000 RPMS backfired then died now when I go to start it, it wants to go but it dont start and run. Spit coolant everywhere when it died. The shop i took it to a while back said that the water pump was leaking a little bit. I know that I need a new water pump but what would be causing it to die like this. its almost like a bad misfire? I have no coolant in the oil so I dont think its a head gasket but I have about $2,000 into the car and have no more money. ALmost at wits end with it. I really dont want to get rid of it but I cant afford anymore. there is also a pretty loud whistle coming from the intake manifold.

 

[SHOspazz92]

There is a very good chance that your leaking water pump got water on your crank positioning sensor which would cause your car to not start, Run like shit and misfire.

Run the codes first, Then replace both the CPS and water pump.

-Sam

 

[SuperHO]

most likely if your crank sensor's fouled it's not gonna throw a code. A failed crank sensor will still allow spark if you test it the old fashioned way, but it's sparking in all the wrong places. a quick tell-tale sign if the sensor's ***** is your tach....when cranking, is your needle moving at all?

What you described sounds to me like classic crank sensor failure from your water pump dribbling on it. Like the ********* above me said, replace your water pump and crank sensor...and while you're in there, replace your timing belt since you gotta pull all that shit off anyway.

 

[pitaSHO]

...What he said. And the crank seal, too. I'm sure it's leaking.

 

[yamasho93]

okay sounds like a good plan... when I bought the car the main seal was leaking so I fixed it then I figured that while im that far might as well replace the timing belt so I have a new and the timing belt done. All i need is a new water pump and CPS?

 

[SHOspazz92]

most likely if your crank sensor's fouled it's not gonna throw a code. A failed crank sensor will still allow spark if you test it the old fashioned way, but it's sparking in all the wrong places. a quick tell-tale sign if the sensor's ***** is your tach....when cranking, is your needle moving at all?

What you described sounds to me like classic crank sensor failure from your water pump dribbling on it. Like the ********* above me said, replace your water pump and crank sensor...and while you're in there, replace your timing belt since you gotta pull all that shit off anyway.

Word.

-Sam

 

[93rev2sev]

negative, ghostrider! The pattern is full!

Your problems are not being caused by the crank sensor. I'm not saying it's "fine", just that it's NOT causing your car to start, run like dookie, and then die.

there is also a pretty loud whistle coming from the intake manifold

Look for a large vacuum leak. That will cause all your symptoms.

 

[SHOspazz92]

negative, ghostrider! The pattern is full!

Your problems are not being caused by the crank sensor. I'm not saying it's "fine", just that it's NOT causing your car to start, run like dookie, and then die.



Look for a large vacuum leak. That will cause all your symptoms.

Reading owns me.

Listen to the above poster. :thankyou:

-Sam

 

[yamasho93]

okay the tach moves when you turn it over. I cant get the car to run long enough to even look for a vacuum leak. I figured it was a vacuum leak but everything is hooked up I am certain. could this be cause by a possibly small crack in the manifold or would it just not run at all? I pulled a plug today and noticed it is black and its wet which I beleive means a misfire and that it is of course getting gas. What would be a good way to check if its leaking vacuum I know the old fashioned way by spraying starting fluid or WD-40 on everything that sucks and if it revves up or dies theres the leak but is that safe on these motors.

 

[qiksho]

Even though your leaking waterpump is probably not the cause of your current problem it will cause your CPS to fail if you don't replace it. It is typical for the car to die when the leaking coolant gets on the CPS sensor. This coolant can cause the CPS sensor to ultimatley completely fail if not remedied.

You said you replaced the timing belt a while back. Did you experience any of these problems before that? Did these symptoms start after that? To replace the timing belt you must remove the crossover tube. Did you tighten down the the clamps? Reconnect the ground strap?

 

[yamasho93]

I got the car the begining of July of 08, I bought the car for $375.00 with a bad front main seal, I replaced that a week after having the car, While I was in there I decided to do the timing belt as well because it was starting to get thin and cracking, this was in july. After I put it all back together it had a tick coming from the timing side of the engine and I was not 100% sure on the timing so I decided to take it to a shop here in town and it was Diagnosed with a power steering pump which they replaced. The ******** there did not tell me until after the car was together and I was picking it up that the water pump was leaking a little bit. I had the timing correct. at the tune 562.00 for the power steering pumpto be replaced I got the car back. About a month after that I replaced the Passengers side CV axle, passengers side brake rotor and pads all around. About a month after that DEVASTATION!!! the transsmission with 189,000 Very abused miles blew up literally I had tranny fluid and coolant everywhere and the whole differential case was split(made it quite easy to get out). So at the end of october I decided to replace the transsmission. I spent more time waiting to find and get the money for the tranny than it took me to get it in and out. I experienced the spark issue after everything was all put back together. IT was due to a the faulty ground strap from intake to body it wasnt grounded because I painted the intake black and red. I fixed that Got spark then found that the water pump was leaking and the car would die, Now the car will start and run until it gets wet then it will spit sputter and die. Now for my question, Since my tach moves is my crank sensor ok or Should I just replace it anyways? I am replacing my water pump and will probably have that done at the end of this week. And another thing my brake lines under the hood are extremely rusty and leak like a stuckk pig. Is there any way that I can replace them without having to run all NEW lines to the rear of the car? Also I have a really loud whistle coming from under the hood it has to be a vacuum line or something? Everything is connected. What else would cause this?

 

[93rev2sev]

Get a buddy to help...a 5 year old girl will do... get the car started and feather the throttle so that it will stay running. Teach your helper how to do this and once the car is kept running, start looking for the source of that whilstle. Since you've had the intake off(you said you painted it) then you probably have a wire or something pinched between the head and the manifold. Either that, or one of the hoses is disconnected OR has a LOOSE CLAMP.

Identify and eliminate that whilstle before trying to diagnose anything else.

 

[haydenkayne]

if youve already replaced the timing belt and crank seal, and are now replacing the water pump, then you DEFINALTY replace the cps, even if it is not faulty. do the three cam seals why youre at it, viola a lower 60k

 

[mooseSHO46]

definitly check the crank postion sensor my water pump blew and my car did the same thing i cleaned it off put a new water pump on and it ran good as new