Is it time to shot my sho?

[Fudog]

Is it time to shoot my sho?

Well had ammco look at the tranny. They said they would work on it until we get the oil leaks fixed. So i was told of a head gasket leak and a rear seal and valve cover leaks along with more that i will find out when he calls me back. I have called many shops in my area and no one wants to touch it because its too complacated So what should i do? I live in an apt., no real tools, and serious cash flow problems. I got a few friends that i can use there place to park it and work on it. And ive got a friend who had a mech. shop for like 5 yrs then sold it to open a minimart. He said he'd help with what he could. Should i start with the long slow rebuild or should i get rid of it? I was concidering a frankenstien engine swap into a 79 dodge colt. With a t-5 tranny it's rwd But im worried about the smog bs. I live in Sacramento, CA. smog sucks

 

[shofun93]

Well first off we never want to hear of the end of another SHO, but if you don not have the time or money to do the work then I only see two options. One, sell it to somone who does have the time and money, or Two, part it out and try to recover what you have in it. 93 ATX's with bad Tranny's are fairly easy to find, and usually expensive to fix (unless you do the work yourself). Most of the parts won't fetch much either unless they are pretty new and in really good shape. Best of luck and hope you get out what you put in to it, but I doubt it.

GL

 

[MOSHO92]

I would recommend that you try to do the work yourself.

It isn't too hard, especially if you have some mechanically inclined freinds to help you. Order the video from SHOnut, Josh explains everything in great detail.

What exactly is wrong with the transmission? Is is an MTX or ATX?

 

[LOUDSHO92]

You might want to get a second opinion. That seems like a lot and its not like the shop will charge you for things that do not need to be replaced. Is this Ammco looking at your car?

Since the tranny is out I would have rear main seal replaced. It is easy to replace at that point. The valve cover gaskets are very easy to do and do not cost much. You might want to see about getting help from friends for that. The head gasket leak might be more then what they are making out to be.

 

[Fudog]

thx for the replies. I got more info on the oil leaks maybe from me adding oil with out a funnel. At least the head gasket. I was told the oil is dripping steady and everything is wet. Also i got error codes with enigine and key on
172 ego switching lean
176 ego switching lean
177 ego not switching rich
332 egr valve not opening
543 fuel pump ckt?
Anyone know about these codes and or causes?
Again thx for your time. The more the shops turn me down the more i want to get the thing running LoL. Seems like everyone is afraid of this motor. I mean is it really that complex? Compared to other v6's?

 

[LOUDSHO92]

EGo I think are O2 sensors and need to be replaced.

The 332 is that the EGR ports need to be cleaned. DO a earch for it and you will find out the information for it. It isnt too bad to do it.

I think you can ignore the 543 code.

The motors can be a little more difficult then other but its really not too bad. For some people it can be intmidating.

 

[SHOtimer]

The motors can be a little more difficult then other but its really not too bad. For some people it can be intmidating.

Fudog,
They can seem intimidating but they really are not. I would encourage you to try and dive into some of this stuff yourself and save the cash. I also doubt your oil leak is a head gasket, probably a camshaft seal of valve cover seal.

Doug

 

[Fudog]

I think im going to try it anyway. Why not right. Just a side note on the car it passed smog the day i bought it. Also front motor mount is broke. It was at an auction but it passed. Makes me think that if i get the leaks fixed and the tranny i might be ok. So 175000 miles what is the first things i should start on? I've got to save money before i do anything, so any tips on what things i should do together would be great. And i was wondering if i should pull the motor and trans to start the rebuild. Its going to take months to save the money, so im not going to be driving it. what do u guys think. Oh yeah if there are any sho owners in my area that would like to help with the labor when the time comes feel free to offer Im sure i can use the help
Thx again for your time.

 

[SonicRiot]

um, a leaking headgasket has nothing to do with oil...





Take your car from Ammco and run like the wind, screaming like a banshee in terror, and NEVER look back. They obviously have NO idea what they are doing if they think the oil is coming from your headgasket. And if you were the one who thought your headgasket blew because it was "leaking oil," make sure your friends help you, otherewise you'll be searching for the bad muffler bearings too.

 

[Fudog]

good point
I didn't even thing about what they were saying. Head gaskets would be coolent and water right? wow
I guess its a gd thing its being towed home right now
How bad is it for these car to sit? I mean like months between repairs without it running?

 

[Fudog]

Update
I think im going to trade it.. To people who have more time and money to work on it. They got a 87 celica gt thats running with lot of maitence done. So thats least id have wheels. What u guys think the celica is in fair to rough shape the motor and tranny and stuff was just worked on. But it nds power steering work.

 

[Jaxon]

I wouldn't trade it for an 87 gt, but thats just me.

 

[SHOguy 92]

um, a leaking headgasket has nothing to do with oil...





Take your car from Ammco and run like the wind, screaming like a banshee in terror, and NEVER look back. They obviously have NO idea what they are doing if they think the oil is coming from your headgasket. And if you were the one who thought your headgasket blew because it was "leaking oil," make sure your friends help you, otherewise you'll be searching for the bad muffler bearings too.

Coolant in oil will make it milky (a tell tale sign of a bad head gasket) But usually this is not a SHO problem. But yes run from Ammco.

 

[LOUDSHO92]

Well there is Tyler and Efrein who both go to Cal Poly San Louis Obisbo. They may be able to help. They are both very good at working on the SHO. There is a SHO club in your area, so those guys can help you.

Do you at least have enough money to get the tranny fixed? How much are the charging for the tranny as well.

 

[aaronsbiza]

Check your PM

 

[Fudog]

AAMCO quoted $340 for trans leaks on bottom and side pan and services (?) they didnt say what the services were.
They said there was a lot of wet oil. I told them i spilled about 1/2 quart down the front cause i didnt have a funnel. (I know mybad )Also i didnt run the engine long enough for all the oil to burn off. But they still said it was leaking bad. They did say the valve covers and the rear seal were leaking from what they could tell. Also they said they didn't want to fix the tranny unless i was sure the motor was ok because of the leaks and the 5 codes. I researched the codes and found O2 senors and erg valve problems. The part that bothers me is that it passed smog as is. so it makes me think it might be worth saving. The people who have the gt seemed like them didn't want the sho anyway. So i might be stuck with it. The guy looked at the tail pipe and there was lots of carbon he said it was burning oil. Ive nvr seen a puff of smoke yet so i don't know?

 

[Fudog]

to loud sho I checked a map and they are like 3 hours away. I live in northern CA.

 

[LOUDSHO92]

Well there are others in the club that may be able to help out. It is the BaySHO Club.

You can easily fix the O2 sensors, EGR and valve covers. I have done them all on my car and they are not too bad.

I would just have them replace the rear main seal because you can only take care of it while the tranny is out. I would do the rest yourself if you can.

 

[Fudog]

thx man sounds like what im going to end up doing. aaronsbiza said he might have time this weekend to have a look at it. He's done work on his car all ready. So he knows more than me If they are others out there in our area let me know pm me or somethin

 

[SonicRiot]

Like I said, run from AAMCO.


And I would NEVER trade my SHO for any Toyrota. Well, maybe a last gen Supra Turbo or one of those V8 IS300s.


Your SHO is very fixable. Do the work with your friends. Save the money and enjoy the adventure and know that it is done right.