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So I’m interested in throwing my hat into the Gen 2 arena. Considering purchasing a ‘93. It has almost no miles on the engine post rebuild because it started to run bad soon after the current owner got it back. This all took place in 2018. The car has been in and out of the shop that did the work and to date has still yet to be sorted out. The man isn’t very mechanically inclined, no fault of his own, so troubleshooting has been difficult. I myself have never owned an early gen so I figured I’d pose the question to the pro’s who know the ins and outs of this engine.
This is the story he’s telling me:
About 100-150 miles after getting SHO 1 back, she started to run poorly….LOW rpm idle of 300, hesitancy when accelerating, poor overall acceleration, and some misfiring, so I immediately took the car back to my mechanics at “McWilliams and Walden”
They had a company “Tech Net professional Auto Care” do the diagnostic which stated:
“Inspected and found engine running poor due to misfire on cylinders 2 and 6, found no spark on cylinders 2 and 6, inspected and found ignition coil shorted, replace coil, inspected and found after replacing ignition coil cylinders 2 and 6 misfired at idle only, labscoped coil signals and found ignition module dropping signal at idle, shorted coil damaged ignition module, replace module.
They then removed and replaced ignition coil and they replaced the ignition module. This all occurred on May 9 2018
On May 14 2018 I was notified by Brint @ McW & W that “it needs an ignition coil pack and we are going to replace ignition module”.
So they did, got the far back, and same scenario starting all over again (for the 4th time), exact symptoms, same diagnostic results, same new parts installed, same results. On one of the four times, they said I needed new spark plug wires because (they blamed the new Motorcraft WR-13 wires I provided) as being no good…..I had bought them from SHOSOURCE a few years earlier as “back ups” if I needed them, so I doubt they were bad. They replaced them with some MickeyMouse brand my mechanics supplier ordered that also went bad due to whatever is going on. I think the Motorcraft stock and preferred AGSP doubke platinums are back in it.
I think the new coil pack they installed at first was faulty and that it might still in the car and if so, that could be what is causing the problems. I think they need to replace the coil pack they first put in because I think it’s bad like the original (stock one) was declared bad.
As far as the DIS, I only included that as a possibility in the event my “burst” cable shield is connected to it (DIS). (hard to tell).
Some dates may be off, because this SAME THING has occurred each time they tried to “fix” it, a total of 4 times,?- and counting(?)
They keep replacing the same damaged parts, but aren’t fixing what’s causing them to get damaged?
So there it is. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.
So I’m interested in throwing my hat into the Gen 2 arena. Considering purchasing a ‘93. It has almost no miles on the engine post rebuild because it started to run bad soon after the current owner got it back. This all took place in 2018. The car has been in and out of the shop that did the work and to date has still yet to be sorted out. The man isn’t very mechanically inclined, no fault of his own, so troubleshooting has been difficult. I myself have never owned an early gen so I figured I’d pose the question to the pro’s who know the ins and outs of this engine.
This is the story he’s telling me:
About 100-150 miles after getting SHO 1 back, she started to run poorly….LOW rpm idle of 300, hesitancy when accelerating, poor overall acceleration, and some misfiring, so I immediately took the car back to my mechanics at “McWilliams and Walden”
They had a company “Tech Net professional Auto Care” do the diagnostic which stated:
“Inspected and found engine running poor due to misfire on cylinders 2 and 6, found no spark on cylinders 2 and 6, inspected and found ignition coil shorted, replace coil, inspected and found after replacing ignition coil cylinders 2 and 6 misfired at idle only, labscoped coil signals and found ignition module dropping signal at idle, shorted coil damaged ignition module, replace module.
They then removed and replaced ignition coil and they replaced the ignition module. This all occurred on May 9 2018
On May 14 2018 I was notified by Brint @ McW & W that “it needs an ignition coil pack and we are going to replace ignition module”.
So they did, got the far back, and same scenario starting all over again (for the 4th time), exact symptoms, same diagnostic results, same new parts installed, same results. On one of the four times, they said I needed new spark plug wires because (they blamed the new Motorcraft WR-13 wires I provided) as being no good…..I had bought them from SHOSOURCE a few years earlier as “back ups” if I needed them, so I doubt they were bad. They replaced them with some MickeyMouse brand my mechanics supplier ordered that also went bad due to whatever is going on. I think the Motorcraft stock and preferred AGSP doubke platinums are back in it.
I think the new coil pack they installed at first was faulty and that it might still in the car and if so, that could be what is causing the problems. I think they need to replace the coil pack they first put in because I think it’s bad like the original (stock one) was declared bad.
As far as the DIS, I only included that as a possibility in the event my “burst” cable shield is connected to it (DIS). (hard to tell).
Some dates may be off, because this SAME THING has occurred each time they tried to “fix” it, a total of 4 times,?- and counting(?)
They keep replacing the same damaged parts, but aren’t fixing what’s causing them to get damaged?
So there it is. Any direction would be greatly appreciated.