Jordan_R
Stock Block Ready To Knock...er..Rock
Lol, you know I'm all about them bargains. So much so that somehow people think it's an insult to say so.. which the logic hurts my head!
2013 PP SHO RE-build/upgrade thread
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BweegN
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Lovin that color!! Yeah, the catch for me at the moment is while the motor is out getting done I can rebuild the trans, clean up and paint the car, and de-mouse the carpet. The time is worth the money...I think.
DadMobile
Worlds 3rd least slowest Ecoboost SHO
What color are you paint it? Is this a “SHOgasim” build in the making?!
DDLopes
SHO Member
I also saved every single email and text between RMB (Ryan) and myself just to have proof in case any issues came up. And I did have a issue with Ryan but, once I showed him the text it was no longer an issue. I think Ryan may take on more work then he can manage at times. But if you want a good shortblock that will handle big power and the builder is honest and easy to deal with. CCS is where I'd go. Just my opinon after dealing with RMB.
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High on Ethanol
Just Ain't Care
High on Ethanol
Just Ain't Care
Rpm in Georgia is good but I wonder what the price would be. I called Island Racing in South Hero and they said, “We don’t work on engines that small”. Which is ******** bc they built a local guys Honda Del Sol motor.....no sense in arguing so I said ok. There’s a local engine builder Pizzagali? But I think he misty builds boat motors and 20 grand was a number I heard tossed around from ppl talking about him. Then I spoke with Green Mountain GearHeads in Williston, just from hearing the parts list they were thinking like 10k. So the general consensus was it would end up costing me more money to have it done locally than it I were to look out of state.
@bpd1151 is having his motor built at Max Power, and has documented the journey in his build thread. Bc or this I reached out to them to port my GHgen3 turbos and 13+ exhaust manifolds and thermal coat the manifolds. They do excellent work. So now that I’m building my motor I had to reach out again. I’d say you’re in about the 5k range as well with Max Power if you’re not porting your heads and intake manifold....also depends if you want things powder coated, or sent to WPC for treatment. But just for pistons, rods, ARP hardware, new timing chain and water pump assembly, closed deck conversion, and valve job on the heads you’re in the 5k range. I’ve added on cnc porting the heads, WPC treating the crank and piston pins, new oil pump gears, cutting open and porting the intake manifold, some powder coating...but anyway it was super simple. Motor came out, stripped it down on the outside and on a crate it went. Len@ Unishippers can set it all up 3rd party, so he prepares the Bill of Lading for you, you print it out..I put the motor in the back of my truck on a pallet. UPS Freight in South Burlington (local to me) took it out of my truck with their forklift. I handed them the Bill of Lading. Off to Max Power it went for $210. Unishippers doesn’t bill you until after it’s arrived to it’s destination.
It was 10 times easier and simple than I expected. So I’ll get a complete built long block back. I don’t have to do anything crazy just reinstall it. There’s some amazing machinist out there....and prices that can’t be beat here in Vermont...and I dare say they are probably more skilled in some cases than here. Take your car to VT Custom Auto for a stainless exhaust and they’ll do shit popcorn fart welds on it. Like wtf?
BweegN
SHO Member
20k...LOL...more than I paid for the car.
Shit, ya know, I didn't reach out to Max power.
I will do that in a few min. Hopefully, CSS can come through for me and I can keep it semi-local. Would be sweet to just have the heads taken care of in a one shot deal as well.
Thankfully, my company is pretty chill about shipping/receiving so I had my motor all crated up I wouldn't have trouble shipping it from here.
Thanks again for all the info 802! I owe ya a
for all the help!
In the meantime, I got my air compressor hooked up so I'll be able to blast some of my brackets and control arms for paint. Hopefully link up with stage3 today and talk turbos.
So...anyone know off the top what our pump and injectors can actually handle reliably? The big question, do I really need the fuel add-ons with the new turbos and motor???
Shit, ya know, I didn't reach out to Max power.
I will do that in a few min. Hopefully, CSS can come through for me and I can keep it semi-local. Would be sweet to just have the heads taken care of in a one shot deal as well.
Thankfully, my company is pretty chill about shipping/receiving so I had my motor all crated up I wouldn't have trouble shipping it from here.
Thanks again for all the info 802! I owe ya a
for all the help!In the meantime, I got my air compressor hooked up so I'll be able to blast some of my brackets and control arms for paint. Hopefully link up with stage3 today and talk turbos.
So...anyone know off the top what our pump and injectors can actually handle reliably? The big question, do I really need the fuel add-ons with the new turbos and motor???
Jordan_R
Stock Block Ready To Knock...er..Rock
Stock fueling shit's itself basically with a tune. If you throw an XDI Evo on there you can do about 500awhp before the lpfp can't keep up. Then you throw the DW300C LPFP in there and the injectors can't keep up at about 540-550awhp so then you throw the XDI +50% injectors and then you're good on injectors until about 700awhp, but the DW300C and the XDI Evo can only do like high 500s (guessing at this point) so then you need to get the XDI60 and figure out another LPFP or throw a boost a pump on there lol...20k...LOL...more than I paid for the car.
Shit, ya know, I didn't reach out to Max power.
I will do that in a few min. Hopefully, CSS can come through for me and I can keep it semi-local. Would be sweet to just have the heads taken care of in a one shot deal as well.
Thankfully, my company is pretty chill about shipping/receiving so I had my motor all crated up I wouldn't have trouble shipping it from here.
Thanks again for all the info 802! I owe ya a
In the meantime, I got my air compressor hooked up so I'll be able to blast some of my brackets and control arms for paint. Hopefully link up with stage3 today and talk turbos.
So...anyone know off the top what our pump and injectors can actually handle reliably? The big question, do I really need the fuel add-ons with the new turbos and motor???
BweegN
SHO Member
DAMN YOU @Jordan_R I can see this is going to get expensive LOL.
So...what you're saying is if I'm headed north of 500/550 then I'm wanting to do the whole fuel system. I'm thinking with bolt-ons alone it must be in the mid 4's or more eh?
Any word around the camp fire what our trans and PTU is comfy with? That is ultimately where I would keep my output so I don't have to worry about replacing the trans (mine will be rebuilt when it goes back in).
So...what you're saying is if I'm headed north of 500/550 then I'm wanting to do the whole fuel system. I'm thinking with bolt-ons alone it must be in the mid 4's or more eh?
Any word around the camp fire what our trans and PTU is comfy with? That is ultimately where I would keep my output so I don't have to worry about replacing the trans (mine will be rebuilt when it goes back in).
High on Ethanol
Just Ain't Care
Copy @StealBlueSho build if you can find it. He pretty much only had the necessary upgrades to get 500ish, and if you want more then add to that.
Ecoboost_xsport
SHO Member
Jordan_R
Stock Block Ready To Knock...er..Rock
500/550 is fine with an XDI 35/Evo. You basically need intake, downpipes, intercooler hpfp, and turbos to get there. You can probably do it without an intake also but the others are pretty complimentary. Stock turbos can do like 460/520 so if your goal is 500/550 I'd say just get the GH Gen 3 turbos to retain stock like spool and ability to go higher if you want to. I did 536awhp at 70% wgdc on the Gen 3 turbos so plenty of room to grow. PTU is actually decently beefy other than the case and I have never seen a case of somebody destroying one from solely power. It's usually a lack of maintenance and the trans is "okay" with 500/550 power level.
BweegN
SHO Member
Welp...may as well add DW300C LPFP, XDI Evo, and injectors to my list. If I got the car this far ripped apart I feel like I would be doing it injustice to not put the rest of that shit in there and have the capability there. Sounds like it all comes down to the trans in the end game as far as the weak link...
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Jordan_R
Stock Block Ready To Knock...er..Rock
@FiveLeeter918 has all of that in stock on ortizperformance.com. I know he's been trying to sell some injectors for a minute and if you use code shoforum you can get 5% off your purchase... Or.... you could use code autoracing and get 6% off.
just gonna plug my own discount code there. LOL
BweegN
SHO Member
Thanks man! I'll get a shopping cart rolling and hopefully start all of my ordering processes Friday.
Fueling, turbos, suspension, just gotta get the mill figured out. Oh, and trans rebuild.
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Fueling, turbos, suspension, just gotta get the mill figured out. Oh, and trans rebuild.
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FiveLeeter918
Ortiz Performance Sales
Thanks for the tag @Jordan_R, we've been crazy busy with site updates and processing orders/tunes it's been a few days since I've checked in here.
I have one set of injectors left, about 7 DW300Cs, and then we are 2-3 weeks out currently on XDI pumps.
@BweegN, let me know if you have any questions, and I can definitely work out a special package for you that will be much cheaper than the site prices if you decide to go hog wild on our site
Most items are in stock ready to ship.
BweegN
SHO Member
Hi Lee! Great news and thank you for stopping in to the thread!
I'm always looking to spend my money in a place with good service and ability to make a package deal; I do very much appreciate that.
Is you site up to date with everything you have?
If not, let me know and perhaps we can email or phone.
Lee, and others that may know.....
I have the Livernois "My Calibrator "with my current tunes on it. Is it safe to assume when this is all ready to go I'm going to have to program the car back to stock and get a SCT or other tuner than what I have now or is that compatible with tuning?
Thanks again!
I'm always looking to spend my money in a place with good service and ability to make a package deal; I do very much appreciate that.
Is you site up to date with everything you have?
If not, let me know and perhaps we can email or phone.
Lee, and others that may know.....
I have the Livernois "My Calibrator "with my current tunes on it. Is it safe to assume when this is all ready to go I'm going to have to program the car back to stock and get a SCT or other tuner than what I have now or is that compatible with tuning?
Thanks again!
Ecoboost_xsport
SHO Member
that is correct...go back to stock first...
...oh and congrats on your new MyCalibrator paperweight!
BweegN
SHO Member
LOL DAMN YOU (stewie voice). I was expecting and ready for it so I'm on a 1/4keg mad. When the time is right I'll video a .45acp going through it :-\
@FiveLeeter918 I just shot you an email. Talk soon!
PS...HOLY $hit fuel parts are EXPENSIVE
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