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Mike Kopstain

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This car is going to have torque... This car is going to launch hard... This car is just amazing. It's nice to see someone actually come through and get a project done.

What snout are you running? It looks like the shorter M62 snout and the keyed pulley was only used on that snout, but your pulley looks to large.

Boost bypass valve - I don't see one and listening to the motor when reving it I would assume it was omitted from the installation. From the aspect of fuel mileage and rod bearing wear, you're going to be in a lot better shape if you install some form of a vacuum bypass valve. For what it's worth, the M90 (Gen III) has a built in electronic/ vacuum bypass valve that you might be able to rig up. The electronic portion is only so the PCM can shutoff boost if needed; the valve is fully functional on vacuum only.

I will try to snap some pictures of my car later to give you an idea. In respect to rod bearings, there is a lot more strain on them at idle and low speeds when the blower isn't allowed to recycle air.
 

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I just listened to the clip :dribble: What kind of exhaust are you running? :hail: The exhaust sounds amazing and then you got that nice ZZZZZZZIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG to add to it, just amazing!
 

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I thought about using a Gen 3 eaton m90 because of the built in bypass valve but didnt because of cost and availability. The blower on there is an m90 off of a 1990 supercoupe (gen 2 eaton m90). My bypass valve idea will be to mount it on the lower intake then plumb it back to the inlet plenum.

The belt wrap issue was thought of too. I had the idea to make a bracket tha bolts to the head where the stock engine lifting bracket is. Then i can bolt on a tensioner there. I have a 3.2L belt tensioner that looks like it would work pretty well.
 

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3.8Lwagon said:
what are the spacer looking things in pic with the blower assemble sitting on the tabel? are they the butter flies?
http://home.comcast.net/~mikecrawford9/TylerSC/mvc-040s.jpg

can they be elimated to make the assembly sit lower?
The spacer looking things are the runners from a chopped up stock manifold. You need them to clear the fuel rail and associated its components. However, if the lower intake manifold (your aluminum box) could be cut up and seated directly on the heads, with the runners inside, you may be able to gain a bit of room. Maybe not enough to make it worthwhile. I noticed you are not running a ribbed v belt. How do the various ribbed pulles handle it?
 

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Absolutely amazing. For some reason I suddenly don't want to sell my SHO anymore.

It's still a SHO in my book. People do whole engine transplants on other cars and there's never any question about it. But if someone is going to argue it's not a SHO anymore, they better be doing it on the ground that it's too damn fast to be considered an SHO, because there's no other reason.

Nice work. Hopefully I'll actually make it to a BaySHO meet sometime and get to see it.
 

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If that is from the Supercoupe, I hope its the second generation with the upgraded/coated internals.

It is an early model SC for sure.. You can tell by the **** where the inlet is.

You can have an early SC converted to a late S/C case at magnum powers.

www.magnumpowers.com

I have a 1995 (second gen) blower on my thunderbird SC that has been ported by Magnum powers. Its pretty damn efficient for a roots type blower.

They get damn loud when you port them too..

I have an extra second gen blower that has been ported too.. Hmmmm....

Time to get a SHO..

Jeramie
 

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I love the fact that just about the time people are feeling the SHO is dead then someone like Tyler gets out the defibrillator :D Awesome work :thumb:
 

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I want to see videos of this thing accelerating! Damn, the M-90 is so perfect for a 3.0L engine with high flow heads..

Jeramie
 

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Reminds me of junkyard wars. it's pretty ugly and it may run. But for the effort gotta give him an A but the packaging sucks.
 

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Maybe just high hopes, but that design looks like it could work for the genIII as well. We all know that we can use the torque!
 

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what kind of blower do the gm 3.8's have? they pretty plentifull and if they had a good displacment, might also be a good option. Corey
 

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I don't see why this setup would create much more load on the rod bearings than the vortech cetrifugal setup. That belt is going to slip the way it is, however...

An I think the engine will hold up just as well as sticking the Vortech setup on... I hope you have a Quaife and a strong transaxle!

I would also suggest a TwEECer. An LPM is not going to be nearly enough tuning to make that thing run to it's max potential. A TwEECer will give you the power to make power.

An who said the SHO was dead? Somebody forgot to tell me.

That Eaton blower is awesome. I'd ditch my intake for that too. The intake was pretty much an over-engineered band-aid to give this high-revving engine some low end power. You have to remember, the SHO engine is not a Ford block in any way, shape, or form, so it's still a SHO. :thumb:
 

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SonicRiot said:
I don't see why this setup would create much more load on the rod bearings than the vortech cetrifugal setup. That belt is going to slip the way it is, however...

An I think the engine will hold up just as well as sticking the Vortech setup on... I hope you have a Quaife and a strong transaxle!

I would also suggest a TwEECer. An LPM is not going to be nearly enough tuning to make that thing run to it's max potential. A TwEECer will give you the power to make power.

An who said the SHO was dead? Somebody forgot to tell me.

That Eaton blower is awesome. I'd ditch my intake for that too. The intake was pretty much an over-engineered band-aid to give this high-revving engine some low end power. You have to remember, the SHO engine is not a Ford block in any way, shape, or form, so it's still a SHO. :thumb:

Have you read this whole thread or checked this guys sig? The belt slipping has already been mentioned and this guy has had some fast SHO's so my guess is he knows that he SHOULD (he don't NEED) get a quaife and such. Also the SHO motors block is based off the vulcan block, only thing they share is bore and stroke. Without the basis of the vulcan block the SHO motor would never exist.
 

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If the only thing the two blocks share is bore and stroke, how is it the same block or based off the other? I've always thought the Vulcan engine to be a complete POS, the Yamaha engine is pretty stout. Plus, the Vulcan is a pushrod engine, the Yamaha is a DOHC.

As I understand it, the SHO block is made by Yamaha, but I haven't had my own engine apart yet, so I haven't gotten that close to it. I don't claim to be an expert on SHOs... I only started learning about them when I bought my own SHO 16 months ago. ****, I just figured out my SHO had a fiberglass hood about 4 weeks ago when I started my service. I decided to take off my hood to gain some more working room, and man was it lightweight!

Yes, I also did read about the belt slipping issue. I was just reiterating.


BTW, the Vulcan is 183 ci. The SHO is 182 ci. How can they have the same bore and stroke?
 

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SHOguy 92 said:
Have you read this whole thread or checked this guys sig? The belt slipping has already been mentioned and this guy has had some fast SHO's so my guess is he knows that he SHOULD (he don't NEED) get a quaife and such. Also the SHO motors block is based off the vulcan block, only thing they share is bore and stroke. Without the basis of the vulcan block the SHO motor would never exist.

Josh, PLEASE know what you are talking about before you post.
 

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