Traction issues

[Brandon78]

No way....

I meant for everything not just the down pipes! I would have never made that purchase lol

 

[Zpak]

Not to rub salt in your wound but Pryor to the L words fall from grace, their BS proprietary tuning device is what steered me away. I said screw that! Why would you buy something that only works for them when you could get a SCT device and get one, or many different tunes from any number of tuners.

As for traction, I think you have plenty of advice now and much to go on. But, I would be remiss not to advocate for the AD torque mounts. I know it obviously wasn’t your stated issue (clears throat, wet roads) but I had horrendous wheel hop on launches and they eliminated it completely. Not to mention they just make your car 100% more fun to drive.

 

[Brandon78]

Not to rub salt in your wound but Pryor to the L words fall from grace, their BS proprietary tuning device is what steered me away. I said screw that! Why would you buy something that only works for them when you could get a SCT device and get one, or many different tunes from any number of tuners.

As for traction, I think you have plenty of advice now and much to go on. But, I would be remiss not to advocate for the AD torque mounts. I know it obviously wasn’t your stated issue (clears throat, wet roads) but I had horrendous wheel hop on launches and they eliminated it completely. Not to mention they just make your car 100% more fun to drive.

Awesome, I will look into this! What brand mount did you go with.

Also dropped psi to 38 and dry roads...all good. I just found it hard to beleive at a 55mph roll it would spin!

1st to 2nd gear shift is scary...

 

[StealBlueSho]

Awesome, I will look into this! What brand mount did you go with.

Also dropped psi to 38 and dry roads...all good. I just found it hard to beleive at a 55mph roll it would spin!

1st to 2nd gear shift is scary...

Why scary? And iirc the recommended tire pressure is 35psi around on a cold fill...

I prefer the South Side Machine Performance hybrid torque mounts. Really helps solidify the shifts and wheel hop is gone...

The hybrid setup virtually eliminated the increased noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH) of the stiffer ones that Anthony sells. And I still had no wheel hop and ran consistent 11’s..

https://southsidemachineperformance...rmance-35-ecoboost-motor-mounts-torque-struts

 

[SM105K]

Awesome, I will look into this! What brand mount did you go with.

Also dropped psi to 38 and dry roads...all good. I just found it hard to beleive at a 55mph roll it would spin!

1st to 2nd gear shift is scary...

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/lms-3-bar-v11-93-bounces-off-rev-limiter.138591/

I would read that, then decide for yourself if you want to stay with LMS.

 

[Zpak]

I recommend the Anthony Dicunzolo mounts. They are the only ones I have personal experience with. However, from problems I’ve read about and the pictures I’ve seen, they are of far, far better quality than the SSM mounts.

 

[Zpak]

If you’re interested you have to email him at [email protected]

 

[SM105K]

I recommend the Anthony Dicunzolo mounts. They are the only ones I have personal experience with. However, from problems I’ve read about and the pictures I’ve seen, they are of far, far better quality than the SSM mounts.

100% The SSM Mounts look like a third grade welded them. Anthony designed them, and they are better in all aspects.

 

[luigisho]

bpd's advice is solid as are many in this thread. ******* contests aside. Suspension components was going to be my next post. springs, struts, those AD mounts mentioned above are good, tires, tire pressure. This is a FWD platform converted to AWD so torque steer is inherent in the FWD design. The power transfer to the rear helps and traction control also mitigates it, but at higher power levels you will need those other components to be in great shape to help. Things will go fine. A few of us are smartasses but we all will help.

 

[802SHO]

I started out my journey with L...shit and I only paid 1,000 for tune, device, plugs, t Stat, 3 bar and plugs. I bought the catless downpipes so I'm like about $900 less than you. Last thing I got from them was rhe Alky kit. So for $100 more than you I also had meth injection.

Next big jump in power will only cost you about $600. Sct device and custom tune! Like some on here, you get a rush from razor blading Livernois Motorsports OFF your windshield.

 

[Brandon78]

bpd's advice is solid as are many in this thread. ******* contests aside. Suspension components was going to be my next post. springs, struts, those AD mounts mentioned above are good, tires, tire pressure. This is a FWD platform converted to AWD so torque steer is inherent in the FWD design. The power transfer to the rear helps and traction control also mitigates it, but at higher power levels you will need those other components to be in great shape to help. Things will go fine. A few of us are smartasses but we all will help.

Appreciate it, I have contacted Tony for availability and pricing.

 

[luigisho]

Post back with a dry run. Curious how it grips. Do you know what the hp and tq numbers are with your tune?

 

[SM105K]

Post back with a dry run. Curious how it grips. Do you know what the hp and tq numbers are with your tune?

He already did. It worked good.

 

[Brandon78]

Post back with a dry run. Curious how it grips. Do you know what the hp and tq numbers are with your tune?

Dropped the psi in the front tires and did a dry run, much better. I do not know numbers yet, I'm waiting for the wrap to come in for my downpipes install and hopefully get it on the dyno. I have the typical bolts ons, I've seen a wide variety of numbers with the same setup.

 

[EcoBrick Bob]

Put a set of Nitto 05R on the front.

 

[bpd1151]

Put a set of Nitto 05R on the front.

EcoBrickBob......

WOWzers! There's a blast from the EcoBoost past!

Nice to see your return there EBB!

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[Vlmorgan]

This is all I was after geez fellers...and this is not exactly minor it's pretty wild as I have torque steer as well...I feel like I should post a clip to better explain if possible...it almost seems like 75% is powering the front

How did you NOT have tq steer before? When it's a little wet, my car pulls like a banshee into oncoming traffic, and the rear wheel hops. Apparently the rear control and/or trailing arms on these flex. I was going to weld a few steel plates in the middle to square them off like in the old days. Besides, the rear doesn't do much more than assist in dry times. If you have true traction concerns in the dry, pick up 20x9s and roll UHP all season or summer 275/40s, or if you want to add a little punch, 275/35s. 255/40 will also work on the stocks for certain tire companies.

 

[Brandon78]

How did you NOT have tq steer before? When it's a little wet, my car pulls like a banshee into oncoming traffic, and the rear wheel hops. Apparently the rear control and/or trailing arms on these flex. I was going to weld a few steel plates in the middle to square them off like in the old days. Besides, the rear doesn't do much more than assist in dry times. If you have true traction concerns in the dry, pick up 20x9s and roll UHP all season or summer 275/40s, or if you want to add a little punch, 275/35s. 255/40 will also work on the stocks for certain tire companies.

It was very minor stock. I was thinking of trying continental extreme contact, any one have any input on these?

 

[bpd1151]

Conti EC's are a very good, all around tire. I ran the DWS06 all seasons quite a bit and achieved the (at that time) record run of 11.54 with them on.

I still had slip and a lil bit of wheel hop though.

I currently have the Nitto NT555R's on since I no longer subject my SHO to DD duties.

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[Zpak]

It was very minor stock. I was thinking of trying continental extreme contact, any one have any input on these?

The best all season tire I’ve ever ran. I highly recommend them. Great in the snow and grippy in the summer.