This is what the dealer told me

[hexxx6]

Yes im the one buying the 97 SHO from a used car dealer....all kinna things he had to change...Bushings in the rear, Ball joints in the front, rear sway bar, struts....and after all this i was gonna go pick up the car today....they had to get it to pass emissions....and it wont pass they said because the battery has been disconnected and soemthign about Ford vehicles that you have to drive them for 10-150 miles long enough for the computer to reset itself....Now is this the truth...or is the man trying to blow smoke up my A$$

Thanks

 

[SHOv6]

The dealership guy is full of it. You may need to run it for maybe 10-15 minutes to let the computer get to where it needs to be, but I've never heard of anything like what he's trying to tell you.

 

[SHOZ123]

He is telling the truth. From the Ford CD......


OBD II Drive Cycle
Note: The IAT PID must be between 10-38°C (50-100° F) during the OBD II drive cycle to enter into all the OBD II monitors. The FLI PID must be between 15% and 85% at all times.

Drive in stop-and-go traffic with at lease 4 idle periods (30 seconds each) while observing the status of the OBD II monitor on the scan tool. If the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), heated oxygen sensor (HO2S), evaporative emission (EVAP), secondary air (AIR) (if applicable) or catalyst efficiency monitor have not completed, drive on the highway at a constant speed over 64 km/hr (40 mph) not to exceed 104 km/hr (65 mph) for up to 15 minutes. Heavy accelerations, sudden decelerations and wide open throttles are not recommended. If the scan tool sends out a three pulse beep at any time, the OBD II drive cycle has completed.
Note: Vehicles equipped with the EVAP purge flow system or EVAP vapor management flow system monitor do not require EVAP monitor completion to clear the DTC P1000 (refer to Section 1A for each monitor description).

If the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR), heated oxygen sensor (HO2S), evaporative emission (EVAP), secondary air injection (AIR) (if applicable) or catalyst efficiency monitor has not completed, perform the corresponding monitor verification drive cycle in this section.

Bring the vehicle to a stop and retrieve Continuous Memory DTCs to verify the DTC P1000 has been erased. Refer to Section 4A, Diagnostic Subroutine DSR6 .

 

[Ian Macoomb]

I've driven my car for a week and check with my handy dandy OBDII code reader and found that not all of the monitors had run yet. I think it's that coasting part of the drive cycle that I rarely do.

 

[Mr Anonymous]

As mentioned above, you were in fact told the truth.

The P1000 code is basically a way to prevent people from trying to cheat the emissions test to clear a CEL/SES light. Since the advent of OBD-II, a lot of states do not physically check the tailpipe emissions of each car and instead rely on the on-board monitoring to determine if the emissions are in compliance. An illuminated CEL/SES light, or any emissions-related stored codes (even without a light) including P1000 are usually grounds for immediate failure.

As also described, a number of conditions must be met in order for all of the monitors to determine everything is in check before clearing the P1000 code. Often, this can take several days depending on the type of driving.

I would recommend either getting them to guarantee in writing that the car will pass emissions testing once the P1000 code has cleared (and that they will effect any repairs necessary to get it to pass), or tell them that you will not accept delivery of the vehicle until it has passed emissions.

In Massachusetts, dealers (and even private party sellers) are required by law to rectify any issues that cause the vehicle to fail either the safety or emissions inspections. This cannot even be voluntarily waived in writing. Find out if your state has a similar provision, which will probably help ease your mind if you end up taking delivery before it has passed emissions.

 

[hexxx6]

Alright...thanks a lot....then it could be a little while....maybe i would be allowed to take it out and drive it to help clear the computer? I just want my damn SHO!

 

[mcgilles]

my car has had the P1000 code for several weeks now. I have some other codes in there (non-critical, don't light the MIL) that I want to read so I can try to fix them...but I can't read them because all I have been getting for over a month is P1000.

I wonder if Doug could write out the P1000 code with programming? then you can hook up a scanner and clear any codes and just have a clean bill of health for the scanner. just to prevent the pita of failing inspection, I wouldn't want to run around with emmissions codes all over the place, could affect performance if the computer things something major is wrong.

 

[SHOZ123]

The AutoTap I have will read all the codes, even if the P1000 is there.