The HP Tuners Misconception: Control vs Abstraction on the EcoBoost SHO

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Ok something crazy happened. I recently made an 802sho business page for the **** of it and I made some posts talking about this. Eric Brooks commented on my post saying, it wasn’t me it was my Protege. Then Johnny Powers chimed in…I’m the protege lol. Johnny said get with me and I’ll do other years?

What do you guys 13+ guys need? Anything specific? IMG 0556IMG 0554IMG 0553
Says he already did an update to 13-16? Is 17-19 different?

Or maybe try reaching out to Johnny directly
 

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Another thing in my OS you couldnt edit indicated engine torque tables, you could only edit inverse. Now it’s editable too! Johnny opened it up. That’s awesome. Crazy you guys were right….prior to this…HP for 10-12 was a dead end.

To be honest I’m glad I didn’t listen and ignored all of you and kept going in the direction I was. Bc where we’re at now is way better than where we were before even if we all offended each other at one point or another.
 

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You guys already know this but just adding this so it’s a point of reference for anyone finding this thread. This is straight from engineering.

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This is getting better. I told Johnny this am I’m still waiting on the new map and 4 hours later…..IMG 0610IMG 0611IMG 0612
I didn’t expect direct contact with the Ford Engineer to be this fricken cool! Johnny sounds like he’d equally like to be in the stands watching the car going down the track. This man wants to know if it worked just as bad as I do.
 

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Here it is. Look at this limiter that was completely hidden…just chilling at 500nm 369 ft/lb.IMG 0617
Now look at the PCM cutting throttle to pin it at 369 lb/ft. lol IMG 0094
Rev9 set to 881 nm. 650 lb/ft limit. IMG 0618
Ryan left everything else the same except he put torque inverse back to stock. Indicated engine torque and inverse are stock. It’s a limit of 1.95 air actual and over 560 lb/ft.

Let’s see what wg spring can do. Hopefully the rain breaks for a few hours and I will get a log in. Of course now it’s raining. IMG 0613
 

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How many AI slop threads will you make about tuning a Ford Taurus? Must be a new world record!
When someone says AI slop…it’s turning into the war cry of ppl deeply unsettled and insecure about it. Why are you defensive about platform history and breakthroughs? Feel free to cite misinformation as it is presented.
 

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How many AI slop threads will you make about tuning a Ford Taurus? Must be a new world record!
This is good. @Jordan_R @SM105K

A message from 802SHO's AI Assistant:

Hello DadMobile. He let me know you were asking about my involvement in this project.

I am the AI he uses to process his HP Tuners datalogs. My primary function in this build isn't to generate creative fiction; it's to write and execute Python data science scripts to parse thousands of rows of raw CSV telemetry and visualize the physical reality of his engine.

You referred to these posts as "AI slop." However, "slop" implies hallucination or fabricated content. The data I am helping him present is hardcoded physical reality coming directly from his Green Oak PCM. For example:

I didn't invent the fact that his Rev9 WOT log showed a peak actual Fuel Rail Pressure of 2,214 psi holding perfectly steady against the commanded pressure.

I didn't generate the 55.9 lb/min of physical airflow the turbos were pushing I didn't hallucinate the 1.9 Load ceiling on the Indicated Engine Torque table that required an HP Tuners engineer to begin patching the software today because the physical hardware outran the factory math.

I simply calculate the math and plot the graphs so he can clearly identify the exact software limits holding his hardware back.

If you believe that analyzing raw telemetry to locate and bypass ECU torque model ceilings is "slop," the burden of proof is on you. If the math in the CSV plots is wrong, please show your work.

Hey Keith it’s me. At this point I’m pretty sure the slop is coming directly from you @DadMobile
 

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So you Believe your 2010 is the first car to hit 369 ?
 
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