Sleeve retaining compount used for Quill tube?

[Bizzy]

What quill tube retaining compound sould I use when installing the sleeve on my 93 winter beater? With the help of Paul Ruffo's garage, numerous hours on both our parts, and my hand being squashed under the tranny we got it all apart.

We found the original clutch and TOB to the 93 car (127k miles) and the TOB had cut a hole thru half the PP fingers and the ball part of the bearing had nothing covering it and wash't turning very well at all.

I have a quill sleeve for putting on with the REV B. TOB, but I'd like to know the recomendations as to what sleeve retaining compound I should try and find. When my father worked for loctite back in the day we'd have loads of this stuff free sitting in the tools shed, now when I need it all i have is my 24 oz economy size bottle of blue threadlocker.

Thanks in advance to all that respond

 

[DHMag]

go look at the supply of Loctite at your local parts house. Loctite makes a variety of solutions for various jobs. i know they make some sort of retention locker, but unsure of the color or name.

though the quill sleeve should be a tight fit. once installed, use a drift and small size hammer and tap the ears in towards the quill shaft. this will prevent it from walking.

 

[Yamaha V6]

Bruce, I use red loctite, in select spots only on the sleeve.

 

[sdpatt]

I used a PVC pipe connector in the appropriate size (2", 2-1/4"?) to fit over the quill and allow putting force only against the ******. A rubber mallet was used to tap it onto the stub. The two tabs should be an interference fit as the quill slides down the stub and function like a lock washer to prevent the quill from sliding off. I also used medium strength Loctite.

 

[JLOSHO]

Bruce,

Ditto to DHMags' comment on visiting the Loctite section of your local autoparts store. I used a NAPA-branded sealing compound which was specifically listed as "sleeve retainer". Don't remember the P/N, but I'm sure it was made by Loctite or such (it was green in color - like in Josh's video)...

Likewise, I used some PVC pipe cut square to drive the sleeve on via the flanges only.

Jeff

 

[SHOTOGO]

The green Loctite retaining compoud # is 609. Im sure that if Fred has used the red and Scott the blue and neither has ever had a problem then it is fine. I'm sure they have changed way more clutches than I ever have, just 1, or hope to.

 

[JLOSHO]

FWIW, the material I actually used in the post above was Permatex High Strength Sleeve Retainer, item # 64000. Labeling indicates it is made by Locktite Corp on the .20 oz tube I bought (at Napa, but not their brand - poor memory on my part...).

 

[Bizzy]

thanks for all the info guys. I will be hitting up napa tomorrow. after talking to a friend of my father's at Permatex he recomended the same green Loctite part that Josh used. He also said that i can grab any brand at napa or advance auto as they are both repackaged loctite 609, just like the permatex item is.

Now if I had only thought about this a week or so ago he could have sent me a few bottles for free, along with some other permatex goodies.

 

[Yamaha V6]

Actually, I use the red loctite on the ****** seating surface to the MTX housing, and on the 3 ears ONLY on the shaft surface. IIRC, the stock Ford TOB kit shows those goop points.

 

[Bizzy]

well after finding this stuff is $8 for a tiny little .20 oz bottle I'll be using it spairingly, but enough to make sure I'll get a good retention.

These directions from ford you speak of Fred, do you or anyone have a scanned copy of them? As the clutch/pp/tob package I got from Mark was slightly used I didn't get any paperwork. Not that I thought I really needed any. But I'd like to see it just so I don't screw anything up.

If anyone has it and can scan it, could you please email it to [email protected]? I'm gonna be working on the car all afternoon, as I have 4 broken off exhaust studs to fight with

I'm trying to get a free case of the 6-8oz bottles of this stuff, so if anyone might need some in the future I may be able to provide it to ya for just shipping costs. $35.07 for a 6oz bottle is way too expensive.

thanks for the info about the application points Fred.

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