SHO review at nextautos.com

[thebigjimsho]

Is it really that far fetched that some of us who've actually SEEN and DRIVEN this car might have a much better perspective on its capabilities???

I get that a bunch of people aren't happy with a big performance sedan. This is a very different kind of SHO than what many people are used to, and/or wanted, and I'm cool with that. Whether or not it should be called SHO, to me anyway, is ********. Would it somehow be much better (or worse) if it was called something else?

What I do find extremely frustrating is that some people seem to be so sure of this car's capabilities, fit, finish, and refinement without even seeing the car in person, never mind driving it. I mean no disrespect to anyone, but that is just plain ignorant, and frankly a bit insulting to those of us who have spent time with the car (who somehow get labeled "fanboys", apparently just because we actually have direct, personal knowledge of the car ) This holds especially true when a vast (yes VAST) majority of the people who've actually spent time with the new SHO have much praise for the car, including the engine, refinement, quality, and yes, the handling of this car. At the same time, it also seems the folks who've driven it don't like the brakes, and though I personally didn't have troubles with them, I'm more than willing to listen to the other folks who've had bad experiences with them.

This isn't some spin machine; it's all out there in black and white print for people to read.

I'm all for respecting individual opinions, but when I'm attacked and ridiculed for having firsthand knowledge of this car by people who've only seen a freakin' picture, yeah, I take offense to that, and frankly it says a thing or two about the people behind the words. If you don't like the car, fine. Just say "I don't like a large, heavy sedan. As for the rest, SEE the car in person. DRIVE it. Then tell us all how it could never compare to Audi or BMW (assuming of course you've driven an Audi or BMW). Then tell us how lousy the suspension is. Then tell us how it doesn't live up to the SHO name.

Do that, and then I'll listen. Until then... :corn:

IDK, I never got to drive the V first. I was able to order mine and was the 2nd in my area to pick up a V. I read every piece of info on the car, every comparison test, every detailed explanation of the power delivery and handling. I'd say most of the info was spot on as I've been very happy with it for 5+ years now. There may be little things here and there that give us a slightly different impression, but my driving a new SHO isn't going to make the car feel any lighter or brake any better...

 

[thebigjimsho]

i believe the same people complaining about it's weight and lack of that coveted third pedal will be the same ones getting butt-sore the first time their modded MTX gets it's headlights forcibly removed at a stop-light speed contest...

I can understand your being frustrated by the never-ending argument/counterargument, but let's not get all stupid and making ******** statements...

 

[thebigjimsho]

Why is everybody so bent out of shape about the weight? People, its 2010! All cars are heavy not just the new SHO! People make the claim that 4400lbs is not a performance family sedan...? Should I say that 4100 lbs Bugatti Veyron is not a super car? 300 lbs difference! The Bugatti Veyron handles great!, so get over it....

If you really want a ******** new 2010 Taurus SHO, buy one and gut all the BS out of the car. Now you have a 3300 lbs 365 hp high performance family sedan... Who is actually going to do that though? Its right up there with all you ******** family sedan people. Isnt it...? Well come on? Be a MAN!

I would be happy the new SHO is back...cause if it where my company I wouldn't built the car for all you crybaby's.

Some of you people are ridiculous...

Actually, as far as supercars go, the Veyron is a poor handler...

 

[thebigjimsho]

Funny how something is too well rounded to be a worthy successor. Sure the Gen III doesn't do a few things as well as the Gen I or Gen II's, but it does many other things better.

Appears that based on the G IV reviews my G III is now officially outclassed as they have improved the swiss army knife yet again.

There is a part of the population that just wants a manual transmission. Just because many of the former SHO community has moved on doesn't mean they didn't exist. I thought the Ford engineer in Dearborn in '95 was going to get skewered on the stage when he announced the Gen III was going to be an auto only...

 

[venom]

There is a part of the population that just wants a manual transmission. Just because many of the former SHO community has moved on doesn't mean they didn't exist. I thought the Ford engineer in Dearborn in '95 was going to get skewered on the stage when he announced the Gen III was going to be an auto only...

I don't disagree....

I love everything about my present 96 Gen III. But I have driven good Autos and bad autos. The Gen III had a horrendous auto.

That's why mine isn't an auto any more. It hasn't been for the past 40K. Good autos with manumatic modes are getting to be pretty damn good, and 6 speeds is a nice side effect as well.

 

[stephen newberg]

Good autos with manumatic modes are getting to be pretty damn good, and 6 speeds is a nice side effect as well.

Exactly.

pax, smn

 

[illSHOyou]

Actually, as far as supercars go, the Veyron is a poor handler...

Are you serious? Did you actually have to alert me that the Bugatti Veyron is a poor handler as far as super cars go...?

You got to be kidding me.

 

[thebigjimsho]

Are you serious? Did you actually have to alert me that the Bugatti Veyron is a poor handler as far as super cars go...?

You got to be kidding me.

Chill out and relax, Francis...

 

[SilverThunder]

Is it really that far fetched that some of us don't really care for a regular Taurus with a big motor being called a SHO?

Then what the **** is a SHO? Last time I checked 89-99 SHO's were still Taurus' with bigger motors?

 

[nw_mr2]

then what the **** is a sho? Last time i checked 89-99 sho's were still taurus' with bigger motors?

+12345

 

[stpidhoser]

Then what the **** is a SHO? Last time I checked 89-99 SHO's were still Taurus' with bigger motors?

Last time I checked, the 92-95s had smaller engines than that of the Essex.

 

[SilverThunder]

Last time I checked, the 92-95s had smaller engines than that of the Essex.

:swing: Always have to be techincal. HP wise...not dimension wise. :thankyou:

 

[esfoad]

OK I GOT IT! The SHO is for those of us who want a stealthy Q-Ship. Ford should introduce a Taurus SVT with the handling, braking and feel that the performance guys on this site are looking for. Kinda like the BMW 5 series vs the M or the Audi A6 vs the RS6.

SVT has stood for performance in Ford speak for many years. What do you all think?

 

[stephen newberg]

Then what the **** is a SHO? Last time I checked 89-99 SHO's were still Taurus' with bigger motors?

Making way too much sense there.

pax, smn

 

[thebigjimsho]

To me, the World of SHO = Yamaha.


Now, that will never happen again and I hope the new SHO is a truly good car. But it will never have the magic of that Yamaha.

 

[stephen newberg]

Well, to those that came up with SHO, which would be Ford, it means Super High Output, and at 365 hp and 350 ftlbtq out of about a three and a half liter motor, I strongly suspect the new one qualifies.

pax, smn

 

[thebigjimsho]

Well, to those that came up with SHO, which would be Ford, it means Super High Output, and at 365 hp and 350 ftlbtq out of about a three and a half liter motor, I strongly suspect the new one qualifies.

pax, smn

If you don't understand what I'm saying, why not figure it out before replying?

 

[Fahrzeug]

Indirectly through my used car and journalism efforts, I've driven hundreds of cars, trucks, and work vehicles from every manufacturer short of the high-end exotics. I've owned cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Chrysler, Dodge, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Volkswagen, I lost count as to how many automotive forums I'm registered at some time ago

I'm with you on that one. I've owned 30 cars since i've been driving, which is about 13 years now. Also, being a Auto Tech for 8 years I have driven my fair share of cars over the years too.

I really love the new SHO, and Taurus for that matter. I wish I could afford one, but i'll wait until they are used.

I have owned a Gen 2 and Gen 3 and now I'm on my 3rd Taurus, which is a '05 SEL. I really like the reliability and the way all my Tauruses drove and I even like the way they handle. It may not be great but I really had fun driving them all.

The new SHO is very nice If you don't like it, you don't like it. It doesn't make a difference to me.

Anyway, up until about 4-5 years ago I would drive nothing but a VW. I hated anyone that talked bad about them and hated every other car on the planet if it wasn't a VW/Audi/BMW/Mercedes. What a mistake I was making.

Last year, I got a job with Ford and I had already bought my Gen 3 which I liked alot. After working on Fords for awhile, I really didn't see any major issues with them that was any different than any other car on the road. They definately had less problems than German cars, thats for sure. I was told when I started working for Ford, that they don't have any of the old issues like they used to. This is true.

Say whatever you want about Ford. When quality is right on with Honda/Toyota, and i've seen it, how could you go wrong now?

Anyway, I have driven and owned cars known for handling, a BMW and several VW's. My '92 and '97 SHO was a BLAST to drive over both makes. I can say without a doubt owning all my Fords were more fun and rewarding and cheaper. I really don't care about resale value, because we really can't do much about it.

I am now loyal to Ford and I don't see myself going anywhere else. Plus, whats wrong with supporting your country?

-Tim

 

[stephen newberg]

If you don't understand what I'm saying, why not figure it out before replying?

I understood perfectly. It was not difficult. Just wrong. Factually. But hey, never let an unpleasant fact mess with a fervent opinion.

pax, smn

 

[DDakRT]

To answer your question on my "experience", over 13 years I've been affiliated directly with:

Ford (all lines)
GM (all lines)
BMW
Suzuki
Mitsubishi
Mercedes
Mazda

Indirectly through my used car and journalism efforts, I've driven hundreds of cars, trucks, and work vehicles from every manufacturer short of the high-end exotics. I've owned cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Chrysler, Dodge, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Volkswagen, I lost count as to how many automotive forums I'm registered at some time ago, and I'll GLADLY lay this track record next to anyone else on the forum, so yeah, if I sound a bit arrogant that's because I actually have the credentials to back it up. Any more questions on my automotive background? Would you like my resume? How about my social security number? If you're looking for someone to belittle on knowledge and experience, keep looking. You'll lose this fight.

Again, the assumptions you're implying are totally off the map. I thought when I posted...

So you don't have a bias for Ford nor SHOs? Ever?
Which automaker had you been associated with? What kinda cars did you own over the years? Which manufacturer's online communities have you been a part of and active in?

...that it was clear I was questioning your bias, not your qualifications. The fact that you spat out your resumé and background is a clear attempt to prove your superiority. Don't patronize me Chris.
You claimed you don't have an bias for Ford (didn't deny the SHO part), but your presence in Ford product's online communities and events proved otherwise.

I'm done going back and forth on this. I'm biased, I'm misinformed, I'm not experienced, blah blah blah. I'm not out to change people's minds on this car, just trying to get their heads out of their *****. Then again, I guess that's the driving force behind bench racers. But that's the rub, isn't it? When I say the SHO isn't that far behind the handling of the G8 (while having a much better overall ride), I'm not bench racing.

Give me a break, and stop putting words in my mouth. I called you biased, but where did I say you were misinformed or not experienced? Find where I said those and I will gladly shut my mouth, say you're right, and never say a bad thing about this new SHO again.

You said yourself reading opinions from people who actually had experience with the car is a good place to get information, yet you seem to refuse to listen to other reviewers, or fully acknowledge the direct quote from Edmunds that I put up (you first said the SHO is comparable to the G8, now it's the SHO isn't that far behind, what's are you going to come up with now after reading the new comparo with the G37?)

The reviews are out there, and AFAIC they speak for themselves. Take whatever information you will from them, though it's clear your mind is already made up before even finding out for yourself. That's the real tragedy here.

You are absolutely right Chris, the reviews are indeed out there. Please read the parts where many said the SHO isn't really a sports sedan but a near luxury cruiser. You seem to have ignore that part when I brought it up multiple times before.

Thanks.