Replacement Clutches

[SHOstuff]

Why would we get a clutch thats 9.75 versus 9.25? Doesn't stock come with a 9.25 and why would it better to get the 9.75?

 

[TwistedMunky]

There was a reason why ford went and changed most of the 9.25 out went to the 9.75.

 

[jedhead]

Why would we get a clutch thats 9.75 versus 9.25? Doesn't stock come with a 9.25 and why would it better to get the 9.75?

Ford recalled all the stock 9.25" clutches and replaced them with 9.75" clutches. The reason was early clutch failures. Some missed the lighter weight of the 9.25" clutch assembly, but you can get the weight back down to the 9.25" assembly by purchasing a 17lbs steel billet flywheel.

Bob

 

[SHO1]

9.25 couldn't handle the job, so they were recalled and upgraded.

 

[SHOstuff]

The reason I asked was because I found a 9.25 clutch kit for $135 and it sounds really good right now given that I'm on a budget. If I was to get this set, would you say that I would be replacing it within a year? And also would replacing the the TOB be important or less important?

 

[frosho]

Ford recalled all the stock 9.25" clutches and replaced them with 9.75" clutches. The reason was early clutch failures.

There's your answer right there. If you buy the smaller kit, you're taking a pretty big risk. Ford wouldn't have issued a recall if it wasn't a major issue. Go with a 9.75" kit.

 

[jedhead]

The reason I asked was because I found a 9.25 clutch kit for $135 and it sounds really good right now given that I'm on a budget. If I was to get this set, would you say that I would be replacing it within a year? And also would replacing the the TOB be important or less important?

If you have the 9.75" clutch already, then the 9.25" will not mount to the flywheel. If you do go with the 9.25", expect to replace the clutch in about 6,000 miles with gentle use (that about how long they lasted before the recall). One risk going cheap is that you will get what you pay for.

Bob

 

[SHOstuff]

There's your answer right there. If you buy the smaller kit, you're taking a pretty big risk. Ford wouldn't have issued a recall if it wasn't a major issue. Go with a 9.75" kit.

:brainfart: Yaa...lol.

 

[SHOstuff]

If you have the 9.75" clutch already, then the 9.25" will not mount to the flywheel. If you do go with the 9.25", expect to replace the clutch in about 6,000 miles with gentle use (that about how long they lasted before the recall). One risk going cheap is that you will get what you pay for.

Bob

Thanks for saying this Bob because that was my next question. If I have a 9.25" is there anything special or any modifications that I have to do or just take the small one off and install the 9.75"?

 

[SHOstuff]

I found a Sach's clutxh kit for $166.79 off of RockAuto. Do that set, from Sach's, come with a ceramic TOB? For anyone that purchased that vendor from Rockauto or is familiar with them.

 

[itwonder]

The reason I asked was because I found a 9.25 clutch kit for $135 and it sounds really good right now given that I'm on a budget. If I was to get this set, would you say that I would be replacing it within a year? And also would replacing the the TOB be important or less important?

Pressure plate and TOB are essential to replace. They are what break. If you have no money and need a quick repair, then just buy a pressure plate and TOB, use the same disk, and don't touch the flywheel. It's a heck of a lot of labor to go to not to do the complete job though

 

[itwonder]

I found a Sach's clutxh kit for $166.79 off of RockAuto. Do that set, from Sach's, come with a ceramic TOB? For anyone that purchased that vendor from Rockauto or is familiar with them.

My best guess is it's like the cheaper kit AZ was selling for 89-90 SHO's which had the larger 9-3/4" disk, but the wrong TOB and no quill sleeve. I would not chance it unless somebody here has had one in their hands and knows it's right bc if it's wrong you lose roundtrip shipping costs.

Cheapest price I see is Brute Power kit ebay $220 shipped.

 

[frosho]

I found a Sach's clutxh kit for $166.79 off of RockAuto. Do that set, from Sach's, come with a ceramic TOB? For anyone that purchased that vendor from Rockauto or is familiar with them.

There is no kit out there that comes with a ceramic TOB, unless you get a kit from Josh (SHONUT) himself. Also, the ceramic TOB alone is ~$100, so it might be out of your budget if you're trying to do this on the cheap.

 

[Devin]

Josh I believe will buy the Rev B that comes with the kits for ~$25. At least he was when I bought mine a few years back. That brings the upgrade to $75 + shipping

 

[SHOstuff]

Ok. Thanks everybody!

 

[pvine]

No! The TOB usually wears through the PP fingers well before the clutch disc itself wears out. Save yourself a headache later and change it while you're in there.

Wondering if anyone else out there made the clutch mod that I did. After talking with someone at RCM Automotive he explained why the PP fingers wear out and exactly what the ceramic TOB does. The fingers wear for 2 reasons. One is that the design has no play so that the TOB is always touching the fingers. The other problem is because of the high RPM the TOB has a hard time keeping up with the PP so it skips around and wears the fingers. The ceramic TOB has less weight and can keep up better with the RPM. One solution offered by RCM was to get a bit of play in the cable so when the clutch isn't depressed its not contacting the PP. I added a return spring on the trans side of the cable with a bracket. This spring has less tension than that the self adjuster spring. So you do the self adjust and then manually back it out one tooth to give the cable just a bit of play. The pedal travel is only slightly more to disengage than without and you really don't notice it. Time will tell how well this will work out. Has anyone else tried something like this?