Possible MTX issue?

[mtx94SHO]

My SHO has a pretty bad clutch in it right now. Ive noticed that, when in neutral, if I push the shifter to either the left or right it will stay there and not return to the center. Is that normal? Also, will a burnt out clutch make noise? It shifts fine and everything, and the fluid is good. Im new to these things but am worrried that theres an issue at hand

 

[lowc]

welcome. where in boston are you? do a search it might be your tob making noise

 

[frosho]

Shifter sounds pretty normal. x2 Where in Boston?

 

[sperold]

If your bite point is down in the carpet on the clutch pedal, then you have a poor clutch. If it shifts fine, then you clutch is in the good category. A lot of clutch assemblies make a noise and it is often the throw out bearing. You put up with it until other symptoms occur, because it is wise to change everything due to the labour component of getting to the TOB.

 

[frosho]

If your bite point is down in the carpet on the clutch pedal, then you have a poor clutch.

I think this needs some clarification. A bite point down in the carpet would indicate worn pressure plate fingers. A high bite point would indicate a worn disc. There is more than one failure mode for clutches. The worn PP finger problem usually shows up first.

 

[sperold]

I need that clarification, I don't understand the thin disc giving a high pedal (ie small cable travel) when all other conditions (like cable adjustment) are the same.
My failures have always been the TOB and fingers, but in a few cases, the disc was at the end of its wear, and the pedal bite point was still on the floor.

 

[frosho]

Pedal travel translates to pressure plate travel relative to the flywheel. As I understand it, with a brand new (full thickness) disc, you need to move the PP further away from the flywheel in order to disengage the clutch than you would with a worn (thin) disc. If the clutch thickness is in spec, then you shouldn't notice this difference, as the adjuster will take out all the slop. When the disc starts to get too thin, you start pushing the limits of the adjuster, and this is when you will notice a higher engagement/disengagement point. Eventually, it will start slipping because you can't get enough clamping force on the disc (because PP travel is fixed).

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.