Mid lower 60k....*Victory over the sprocket!*

[SHOtimer]

Well, maybe just for peice of mind I will lightly spread some on both sides. Thanx for the referral to Adam, I have done business with him before and he is getting me a new middle timing cover. But, he doesn't think he has those two grommets.
Thanx, Doug

<small>[ December 24, 2003, 06:13 PM: Message edited by: SHOtimer ]</small>

 

[SHOtimer]

Ok, water pump is on and good to go, and everything is going rather smootly up untill the last hour. I now need to find a vice big enough to compress the tensioner, since it will not fit in mine. And, I am having a difficult time figuring out how in the world I am going to get the sproket and the pulley back on the crankshaft. I think that the remover is also used to reinstall it, right? But, how in the world do I go about pushing it back on correctly with the remover/puller tool? Thanx, Doug

Merry Christmas to all!

 

[K-Dawg]

Clean up the crank snout real good and do the same with the inside of the sprocket and damper. You can also put some grease on both. The sprocket should then slide on without a whole lot of trouble. The damper may not go on all the way. Get it lined up and use the crank bolt to pull it the rest of the way on. Don't bang on it with a BFH.

 

[luigisho]

Regarding crank pulley bolt and backing out. Proper torque of course and IIRC it is supposed to have some blue loctite as well.

 

[SHOtimer]

Ok, I cannot get this sproket back onto the crankshaft. It will go on for about .5-.75 of an inch and then no more. I have white lithium grease on the sproket and crankshaft. I never removed the woodruff key when doing any of this servie and it seems to be in there pretty tight. Is it possible that it could have moved? I'm gettin ready to go insane here, please some advice. Thanx, Doug

 

[Dr. Tweak]

When I put mine on, I cleaned the crank and the sprocket really really well, then I sprayed them with WD-40. I set the sprocket on my propane heater for a while and got it nice and hot while the crank was very cold (near zero weather). Then (using gloves of course **** ) I was able to slide the sprocket on by hand. The engine damper went on next, it slid about halfway on, they I "encouraged" it with a block of wood and a hammer (very light taps) just far enough to get the crank bolt started, which I then used to pull the damper in the rest of the way.

Hope that helps... shrug


*edit* Ownage of page two. Oh yeah! lock I always wanted to do that...

<small>[ December 27, 2003, 02:27 AM: Message edited by: JDLangevin ]</small>

 

[SHOtimer]

Well, I have white lithium grease all over everything now, and that I would assume would do the same as WD-40. Since heat causes expansion I would think that heating it up would make it more difficult to install. I would assume that two cold peices would fit together better, since they would be contracted as much as they could be.

I thought about a block of wood and a hammer but I don't want to hurt anything and the sproket has to go on past where the crank extends. Well I guess I could get a peice of pipe. But, wouldn't that hurt the bearings and oil pump.

There must be some more thoughts on this!

Thanx, Doug

 

[Dr. Tweak]

Well, I have white lithium grease all over everything now, and that I would assume would do the same as WD-40. Since heat causes expansion I would think that heating it up would make it more difficult to install. I would assume that two cold peices would fit together better, since they would be contracted as much as they could be.

I thought about a block of wood and a hammer but I don't want to hurt anything and the sproket has to go on past where the crank extends. Well I guess I could get a peice of pipe. But, wouldn't that hurt the bearings and oil pump.

Nope, you're wrong. Heating the damper will make it go on easier, I garantee it. I had to crank on the puller to get mine to come off, but when I heated it I could nearly slide it on by hand, and I didn't hit it hard at all with the hammer.

By the way, are you sure the pulley has to go on past the end of the shaft? Cause I didn't think so but if it does I better fix mine! Anyone on this?

 

[SHOtimer]

Well, then I guess I will try heat. No, it isn't the pulley that goes past the end of the shaft the timing sproket does. It pushes up against the block then the pulley goes infront of it. Well, I will try heat tomorrow I guess. Is there a specific portion that I should heat? The heat of the sproket won't damage the crankshaft sensor? Thank you.

Doug

 

[SHOtimer]

Just to reclairify..it is the sproket I can't get on, I haven't even gotten to the damper/pulley.
Doug

 

[Dr. Tweak]

Lol oh yeah I know. Well the sprocket should slide on easier.

What you do is take the CPS off, and suspend it a little higher, then slide the sprocket on, let it cool, and then replace the CPS. Don't forget to gap it You don't want to melt the CPS for sure....

Let me know how it goes burnout


*edit* Just saw your 2nd post. Ok I thought it was the pulley, but I used this trick for both. Once you get the sprocket started it should slide on the rest of the way easily, esp when heated up.

<small>[ December 27, 2003, 03:48 AM: Message edited by: JDLangevin ]</small>

 

[SHOtimer]

Alright, I will try that tomorrow and repost letting you know how it went. I'm grateful I know that my Dad has a torch. Thanks JD, Doug

 

[SHOtimer]

Thanx hail JD. I heated it up with a torch this morning and it slid right on. I assume I push it up to the oil pump as far as it will go. Now, it is cooling and I will install my crank sensor and the timing belt. After that I have to sit back and wait for my middle timing cover and rubber grommets. Thanx a lot JD, Doug

 

[Dr. Tweak]

Good job bro, glad I could help. Now just make sure you put the lower timing belt cover on before you put on the engine damper and torque the crank bolt laugh_ti

It's happened before...

 

[SHOtimer]

I've mentioned what I did to several other people whom I know and some have expressed that I could have compromised the metal or changed the temper or warped it. Is that possible, could it have been damaged in any way? Thanx, Doug

 

[sdpatt]

Also remember the timing belt guide washer that mounts between the timing belt pulley and the crank damper and on the inside of the timing belt cover.

 

[K-Dawg]

Think about how hot it can get down there. I doubt you did any damage.

Don't forget the guide/spacer/washer that goes on after the sprocket.

Edit: Scott beat me to it. beer

<small>[ December 27, 2003, 05:58 PM: Message edited by: K-Dawg ]</small>

 

[SHOtimer]

Yea I slid the timing belt washer on there right after I installed the CPS so I wouldn't forget it. Now, the SHO gets to sit on it's rear untill I find some grommets and my new middle timing cover gets here. Thank you guys for the help so far, I wouldn't have been able to do it if it weren't for you guys.
Doug