IMRC cable broke?

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93greenSHO

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It happened all of a sudden one day. I went to pass someone in the city and put a little too much pressure on the gas pedal. The engine went to over 4000 RPM but I did not hear the secondaries open. It's been like this for a few days. What happened? This is bugging me because my car revs like a beast when floored but hardly moves. Don't ask about a code because I took out the SES light because an AIR code kept it on. Can anyone tell me what happened and how I can make them open again? (BTW, I have a V8)
 
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New box, or new cable. But you need to first clean out the LIM so that it doesn't happen again. Otherwise just wire them open.
 

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Sounds like a maulfunction in the IMRC or cable causing the secondaries to stay shut. An easy way to verify a maulfunction is to rev the motor to the 4K limiter or have someone start it as you watch the linkage for movement. The PCM has most likely stored a code regaurdless of the SES bulb situation and the code can be pulled using a generic scanner(Auto Zone). If it only gives a code number and no description you can match the code in a Chilton also at Auto Zone. You're problem should not be that hard to identify and correct providing you have the funds for a new IMRC deactivation motor/cable. Or you can wire the secondaries open as some choose to do even though it will have a slight affect on low range TQ during normal driving.

*EDIT* pcross_53 posted as I did and is correct in short. And yes, cleaning the LIM out will reduce the risk of this happening again.
 
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Alternatively, you can just wire the secondaries open and leave them that way, then unplug the battery to clear the code, and drive on without the IMRC. It appears to make no real difference under most circumstances.

pax, smn
 

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I took off the appearance cover and revved it to the limiter. I saw no movement of any kind. If someone can put it in layman's terms, what does that mean and what do I need to do? Also, what is a LIM?
 

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K.....on the front of the valve cover, there's a lil box with a cable coming out. The cable heads over under the throttle body. Look under the throttle body, and you'll see some linkage. That's your secondaries.

If you want, I got a buddy of mine who has a couple of them for sale. I can get ahold of him for ya if you'd like...helluva lot cheaper than going to the dealership, where they cost about $220.

*edit: LIM means Lower Intake manifold, where the secondary butterflies reside on a V8 SHO.
 

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I looked inside the IMRC box and saw the cable was snapped. Can I just replace the cable or does the whole IMRC box have to be replaced. I don't want to wire the secondaries open because I am always short in time, money and patience. PLEASE HELP!!!
 

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Cable can be made at a Motorcycle Shop, though it may be more than you want to spend.

IMRC can be taken from a duratec at a junkyard or bought new at the dealer. Very easy fix.
 

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Well, you can remove the broken parts of the cable and take it to a bicyle shop or such and they can likely make you up a new one for $10 or less. A complete new IMRC is rather expensive. You still likely need to clean the intake since the cause of the breakage is normally stress on the cable due to crude building up and making it not want to shift the butterflies easily.

But if you are not in a very cold place, the cheap (zero cost) and easy way to handle this taking less time than anything else as well, is just to wire the butterflies open and take the entire IMRC out of the operation, regardless of its condition. What it does is open those butterflies, nothing else. A fair amount of testing by people on this board and on the other main V8 SHO board has indicated just having them open all the time causes no problems of any note except in extreme cold starting.

To wire them open, just find the end of the cable and pull it to see where the spring and arm are at that the IMRC actuates. Then, using wire or strong tie wraps (I just used tie wraps) pull the arm to full open and then wire it down in that position to some near by chunk that does not move or get hot enough to melt things. It took me about 10 minutes including getting tools and such, and I did it alone, which is a hassle since you really need 3 hands. If you can get someone to hold the arm in the open position for you while you wire it down, you can do it in half the time and then never think about the IMRC again.

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Looks like just aluminium foil to keep heat off the leads. Assuming you were talking about in the photo. If you are talking about tie wraps to wire down the actuating arm, just standard heavy duty ones, the ones that are 5mm (3/8") across.

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JSIL1 said:
What type of wrapping are you using?

It's some hi temp aluminum tape basically. It looks basically like aluminum foil but had a sticky tape backing to it. We use it at the fiberglass door factory when a door is made that is going to be used in a freezer. A HOT wire runs around the door frame and this keeps the seal of the door and frame from freezing together.

I recentlly took the vanity cover off to check things out and everything was A-ok. It's going to have to get hotter than the plastic to melt the harness now.
 

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It seems I have 2 options. Take apart the manifold and clean it and replace the cable or wire the secondaries open. I might go with option two but does anyone know if I need to remove the upper intake manifold to wire the secondaries open or not? If I do, I might as well clean the LIM and replace the cable while I got the top half of the engine ripped apart. Does anyone know how long it'll take to remove the manifold, being my first time?
 

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I got a code on a 96 SHO that said #1 intake runner is closed...so I guess I need to "wire" the secondaries so they stay wide open at all times?:cool:
 

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It seems no one heard my question. How long will wiring my secondaries open and cleaning the LIM take? FYI: It will be my first time doing so.
 

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As I mentioned above in my first post of 6sept, wiring open the secondaries takes 10 minutes. The cleaning is very dependent on how bad things are and varies a lot.

pax, smn
 

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You do not need to take the manifold off to do this. It is easier if you take the throttle body and the 90* part off (as one piece) though. Just take off the top manifold support bracket and then loosen the hose clamps on the large black coupler.
 

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I'm not trying to hijack here but...

How does the computer throw a code out in where it could be the IRMC not opening. What if you never get above 3,400 rpm? How does it know it is messed up?

I'm just trying to figure out why the #1 intake runner is closed according to the code?
 
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