Flickering oil light? new question 8-1-08.

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Irish Pride

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this past week i've noticed that my oil light will flicker for a short moment when starting in first gear from a complete stop. it has only happened a hand full of times over the past few days. it doesnt do it everytime i start from a complete stop, nor does it do it while idleing or while driving. i had the oil changed before i had the car shipped last month. it only has about 500 miles on it since then. the oil looks great and is where it needs to be on the dipstick. can anybody tell me what might be about to happen. is this a tell tale sign of an oil pump going out, or possibly something else?
 
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Mmm..... Sounds spooky!!
But it can aither be the oil pump starting to act up or maybe your rod bearings starting to go out. Does the engine sound diferent?
That's how mine started before they whent out !!
Good luck.
 

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Are you bogging the engine down too low when your taking off, causing it to loose oil pressure, thus putting the idiot light on?
 

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Are you bogging the engine down too low when your taking off, causing it to loose oil pressure, thus putting the idiot light on?

thats funny that you should ask that. the car has had a brake problem since i bought it. the brakes dont release all the way unless i lift up on the pedal with my foot. it never was a big deal, but lately it has been getting worse. you think the two could be related? what does the brake problem sound like? it isnt a stuck caliper, its all 4 wheels equally dragging. as soon as i lift up on the pedal they all release and away i go.
 

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if you aren't bogging the engine under say 600 rpm, then it is 99% your rod bearings (that means stop driving the car right now if you don't want to get a new engine), and the brake problem sounds like maybe brake booster problem to me.
 

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are there any other signs of the rod bearings going bad? i've noticed a slight rattle coming from under my car this past week. i just thought it was something loose under the car. it sounds like a heat shield or something came loose. the car is running great other than that.
 

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Rattle = knocking , If you still want to drive a SHO next week , dont do another mile with it. Rod bearings.
 

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If your bearings were never changed, just change them for good measure. I herd no sounds in my 99k mile 93, and ran great, no light at all until i revved in my driveway when i got home and saw a little flicker when the revs dropped back tp idle but then it went away. I Figured ok that wasn't good but its prolly not to bad, so i pulled it apart the next day to change the bearings, and found this, the crank was screwed up and the engine was trash, at 99k miles. This was a meticulously maintained car as well, I mean the engine was so clean you could eat out of it, it had the 60k done at 60k as well, moral of the story, CHANGE YOUR ROD BEARINGS NO MATTER WHAT.

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what kind of cost am i looking at to have the bearings done? this is not a job that i can handle and i would have to pay somebody to do it.
 

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Probly rod bearings.
Before you do anything though, change your oil just for the heck of it. My old 94 did the same thing and I thought uh oh rod bearings, but I changed the oil and filter and it never came back on again for the 40k I had it.
 

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The Low [ OIL ] pressure light illuminates when pressure at the sensor drops below 6 psi, if the Oil Pressure Sender is working correctly.

There is roughly a 7psi increase in oil pressure for every 1000 rpm increase in engine rpm. Conversely, oil pressure decreases as rpm decreases, and most Gen I/II SHOs will display a steady or flickering [ OIL ] light when the rpm drops to 500-to-600 rpm due to simple engine wear.

If you're allowing the rpms to drop below 800rpm while letting the clutch out, that's the problem as TopGunnYFZ indicated above.

A "bad" or weak oil pump is not likely. A malfunctioning Oil Pressure Sender is much more likely.

Do you know what kind of oil they use during the oil change? Using the wrong weight oil (eg. 5W-20) could suddenly cause you to get a Low [ OIL ] pressure light. Conversely, using a heavier weight oil can elevate oil pressure, which will prevent the flickering [ OIL ] light.


I'm going to play the contrarian here.

First, rod bearing damage like that shown in the image posted by 1993MTXSHO does not occur because seeing a flickering Low [ OIL ] pressure light once or even a few times. It is the result of poor maintenance practices - not changing the oil at regular intervals, running low on oil repeatedly or for extended periods, running the wrong weight oil, repeated burnouts and beating-the-shit out the engine, etc.

Rattle does *not* always mean a rod bearing knock. There are a number of other underhood problems that can produce very similar sounding noises, especially to someone that's not familiar with what a rod-knock sounds like. And even if it were a rod bearing knock, I know several SHO owners who have driven their SHO for months, beating the **** out of them before the engine let go. Ask SuperHO and St Louis SHO how long and how hard they drove their 3.0s before they blew.

First, if you're allowing the rpms to drop below idle-level (800 rpm) as you engage the clutch - stop it, use a little more pedal.

Second, put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on the engine and see what your oil pressure actually is.

Third, consider changing the Oil Pressure Sender - it's a single-wire sensor, inexpensive, and simple to change.

Fourth, I agree with Troywakeling - change your oil and filter to what ever weight and brand you were using before the last oil change. Also consider going to the next heavier weight in the interim.


Wanna hear a scary story why you should always do your own oil changes?

Several years ago, a female friend came into an O'Reilly's with that look on her face. I asked where her car was, and she said the oil light had come on and the Jiffy **** station told her the motor was bad (even though they had driven it in to service with no light on).

So I walk back-over with her and the guy that serviced her car immediately gets defensive. "I already checked the drain plug and the oil filter is on there right." Okay - I replied fine and ask that they push the car back out. I check the drain plug and filter, look for leaks, then check the level - all fine.

Anyone want to guess what was wrong?


:oogle:
 

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i see my lite sometimes in 1st when it almost stalls out cause i keep it revved so low entering my driveway going over the curb, sounds like a similiar issue ?
 

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First off...for both of you....stop bogging your damn engines!! If you can't drive a stick right, sell it and get a slushbox. 2nd off, learn to get your hands dirty and change the oil yourself...only instead of using the glorified **** **** that most **** shops insist is oil, get the good stuff.

As for rod bearings, it's not really that hard to do. For me, the hardest part of the whole thing is getting the y-pipe and the starter off. Everything else is stupidly simple.
 

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:blah: , first off i use RP in all my cars, always have and do all my own oil changes, 2nd i drive a 18 speed peterbuilt all day long so dont tell me i can shift, sorry i dont want to come flying into my driveway or rev it to 3k to creep over a curb , sometimes it happens, no big deal, rod bearings dont need to be changed because of it
 
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