cryofuzion co2 cooled intake

[rjjr]

I stumbled upon this today in a magazine ad and went to their website.
http://www.cryofuzion.com/products.htm#Interfreezer

basically its an intercooler for your intake cooled by co2, and you can use it on a n/a vehicle. You just install a co2 bottle in the trunk. Sounds kinda cool to me . Any thoughts?

 

[rjjr]

hmmm..... and then you can also buy what they call a "flowducer" which installs in the exhaust and uses the co2 expelled from the intake to create a negative vacume. so it sucks the exhaust out...interesting

 

[todras]

Well since engines need O2 to make power I'd say ney. Might be a wild guess but I'd say carbon dioxide is bad for power. It would nix the cooling ability.

Edit: It looks like it doesn't mix with the O2 in the air stream. You'd think if it was a worth while mod we would have heard of it. This process isn't rocket science so there must a reason it hasn't been offered before.

 

[Camarok]

it doesn't acually go inside yoru intake, it wrapps teh intake manifold to cool it, which cools teh air inside to densen the air so you can get more air... which is more power...

What I thought whould be cool is O2 injection..... get a nitrous kit but use strait oxygen not as harmfull as nitrous would... just an asumption

 

[todras]

Straight O2 isn't going to do much if anything. NO2 is extremely safe if you read up on how to use it. The Venom 2000 kit is completely computer cotrolled. If it senses the injectors going lean it will shut itself down.

 

[nc89sho]

acctually.. straight oxygen does one thing... explode.

 

[Camarok]

acctually.. straight oxygen does one thing... explode.

heheh my point exactly.... pure oxygen and fuel with a spark plug would do nice things....

 

[Camarok]

Straight O2 isn't going to do much if anything. NO2 is extremely safe if you read up on how to use it. The Venom 2000 kit is completely computer cotrolled. If it senses the injectors going lean it will shut itself down.

and NO2 is oxygen with basically an intercooler so you have teh same thing going for you i guess....

 

[nc89sho]

i mean explode as in.. blow the car sky high. not make it faster. ever tryed lighting a match near pure oxygen? of course not because you're reading this now.

 

[freeze]

It probaly will work in theory but for the cost of the system you could use nitrous. Now as for the co2 bar on the intercooler it gave toolman 42hp at the wheels.

 

[Dr.Evil]

i mean explode as in.. blow the car sky high. not make it faster. ever tryed lighting a match near pure oxygen? of course not because you're reading this now.

LOL! Thats why you mix it with nitrogen. The pure oxygen is only released in the extremes of the combustion chamber. If you use pure oxygen, it will blow up your motor. And if you get in a crash w/ that tank, it will blow up you and your car.

 

[DemonNeno]

uhm, no.. the reason you use NO2 is to COMPRESS what oxygen it works with to double, triple, or quadrople the amount of oxygen the motor is inhaling. Kind of like forcing more air down your intake, in return, you're essentially looking for that oxygen. Pure oxygen into the motor isn't the problem as much as getting the motor to properly use and dispose it without burning stuff up. Also, pure oxygen doesn't require a catalyst to cause explosions. Oxygen IS flammable. Nature, however, always seems to have that good mixture of "sttuff" to "tame" other things. That's as technical as I'm gonna get!

Combustion chambers are meant for big explosions... If properly achieved (which i think would be worth more than 1/4 of the shoforum's members cars are worth.. exaggeration, but never used before..) it would definitely create a much more powerful motor.

As for the c02 trick, it would work. It's like having a icebox for your intake. There are TUBES that run into your intake tube (before your intake manifold.. best off before your MAF and TB for optimal readings) that essentially cool the air as it flows through them, like a radiator or a intercooler. How much it would cool the system is the coin toss.. whether there would be a difference in air temps is definite.

 

[freeze]

it also seems expensive for the hp gains you'll get it is interesting tho.

 

[General Tso]

Accually, oxygen is not flammable, it is... gasp... an oxidizer. Oxygen is the reactant that allows anything which is flammable to burn, without oxygen there is no fire, but it wont burn without a propelant.

 

[Ishodu]

The fire Triangle:
Fuel
Oxygen, Heat

With out all three fire or explosions cannot happen! And if there is a fire remove one of these and the fire is out!

 

[RJ-92]

The fire Triangle:
Fuel
Oxygen, Heat

With out all three fire or explosions cannot happen! And if there is a fire remove one of these and the fire is out!

Hence CO2 fire extinguishers.

 

[DemonNeno]

edit: i just dumped this last reply because i was far too intoxicated to understand what I meant by all that gibberish! jebus...

 

[SHO92]

The Nitrogen in nitrousoxide is there to stabilize the oxygen so that it doesn't pre-ignite. Pure oxygen by itself is very volitile and unstable. Good luck even getting a tank of it.

 

[Ishodu]

The Nitrogen in nitrousoxide is there to stabilize the oxygen so that it doesn't pre-ignite. Pure oxygen by itself is very volitile and unstable. Good luck even getting a tank of it.

Pure Oxygen is easy to get. You just go to a local welding supply store and buy a bottle.

 

[DemonNeno]

Pure Oxygen is easy to get. You just go to a local welding supply store and buy a bottle.

big ole bottles of it, too!


About oxygen being an oxidizer... that's still a chance i'm not bargainin' with!