Gen Ii 3.0 cranks but won't start

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95 SHO had been setting for a couple of months. Tried to start. Cranked but no start. Checked for codes. None. Tried a few more times, finally started. Next day,started right up. Drove about 10 miles, engine quit just like you turned the key off. But then started on it's own while I was coasting to a stop. Drove about 10 more miles, quit again. No start. Checked for codes. No current codes, but 211 and 214 in memory. Changed the ICM, no change. While cranking, tach moves. Any thoughts? Thanks for any suggestions.

 

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crank position sensor, on ebay there are some now

 

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Thanks for the quick response. I suspected the crankshaft sensor. But since the tach was reading during cranking, I thought the crankshaft sensor was working. Also is it common for that sensor to be intermittent?

 

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It slowly fails and eventually won't start, code 211 is the code for a crank sensor. CAM sensor is the one for the tach.

 

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Is the cam sensor 214?

 

[Irish Pride]

No start condition with Tach, crank sensor. No start condition without Tach, cam sensor.

-Chad

 

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Thanks much

 

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Do you know when the last front 60k was done? Probably a good time to do it and replace the parts as well when you're in there

 

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No start condition with Tach, crank sensor. No start condition without Tach, cam sensor.

-Chad

Need your help. I thought I found the correct crankshaft sensor. I looked at Ebay, Amazon, and Jegs.com. They all showed a Walker 935-91130 as the correct one for a 1995 3.0l SHO. Turns out that it looks correct but it only has 2 wires, whereas the one on my SHO has 5 wires (as is shown in the factory service manual). Any ideas where I can get the correct sensor? Thanks in advance for your help.

 

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search ebay:

1989-1995 Ford Taurus SHO Crankshaft Position Sensor CPS Crank ShaftF3DZ-6C315-A

 

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search ebay:

1989-1995 Ford Taurus SHO Crankshaft Position Sensor CPS Crank ShaftF3DZ-6C315-A

Thank you

 

[Irish Pride]

Need your help. I thought I found the correct crankshaft sensor. I looked at Ebay, Amazon, and Jegs.com. They all showed a Walker 935-91130 as the correct one for a 1995 3.0l SHO. Turns out that it looks correct but it only has 2 wires, whereas the one on my SHO has 5 wires (as is shown in the factory service manual). Any ideas where I can get the correct sensor? Thanks in advance for your help.

SHO Source has the correct sensor.

I have several in my stock pile if you can't find one. I'm in the process of doing a crank sensor on the car that I just bought 3 weeks ago.

-Chad

 

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SHO Source has the correct sensor.

I have several in my stock pile if you can't find one. I'm in the process of doing a crank sensor on the car that I just bought 3 weeks ago.

-Chad

Thanks again. I saw your later reply and already acted on it. If I have a problem, I'll be back to you.

 

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That Walker part doesn't even eyeball look correct.

 

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95 SHO had been setting for a couple of months. Tried to start. Cranked but no start. Checked for codes. None. Tried a few more times, finally started. Next day,started right up. Drove about 10 miles, engine quit just like you turned the key off. But then started on it's own while I was coasting to a stop. Drove about 10 more miles, quit again. No start. Checked for codes. No current codes, but 211 and 214 in memory. Changed the ICM, no change. While cranking, tach moves. Any thoughts? Thanks for any suggestions.

I'm back...installed new crankshaft sensor. Cranked right up, checked for codes...none. Test drove, no problems. Over the past month, have cranked just to let it warm up. Yesterday backed it out to wash. When finished with the wash job, WOULDN'T START! It kicked and bucked, but wouldn't start. Checked for codes...got 214 and 542. Because of 542, I checked fuel pressure. When first turned key on, had 20psi. Cycled key again, got 35psi. Tried to start again. Finally started, but was skipping and random RPM, had check engine light. Finally engine smoothed out and engine light went out. Still have codes 214 and 542. Camshaft sensor? Thanks again in advance for your help.

 

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you can usually ignore code 542 (it pops up when the engine dies). Code 214 is usually the cam sensor. if you unplug the cam sensor and try starting it and it runs fine, then it's the cam sensor. Mine bucked when the cam sensor was failing. It can take a few tries to start it when you unplug it since its guessing when to fire.

 

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you can usually ignore code 542 (it pops up when the engine dies). Code 214 is usually the cam sensor. if you unplug the cam sensor and try starting it and it runs fine, then it's the cam sensor. Mine bucked when the cam sensor was failing. It can take a few tries to start it when you unplug it since its guessing when to fire.

Thanks much

 

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Thanks much

Disconnected the cam sensor and it started right up. Is that because yesterday when I had such a hard time getting it to start, the ECM was adjusting to compensate for the failing sensor? And since it already done that, it starts right up now?

 

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If it started and you can drive it without any issues, then it was the sensor. You can search for Code 214 on this forum. There are a lot of posts on what is happening. If your cam sensor failed, it could be due to oil leaking from the cam seal. If so, you want to replace that as well since that is probably what caused the sensor to fail. There are posts on how to replace it as well. It's a common problem.

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If it started and you can drive it without any issues, then it was the sensor. You can search for Code 214 on this forum. There are a lot of posts on what is happening. If your cam sensor failed, it could be due to oil leaking from the cam seal. If so, you want to replace that as well since that is probably what caused the sensor to fail. There are posts on how to replace it as well. It's a common problem.

Camshaft Seal 3.0L / 3.2L (89-95) SHO

The camshaft seals on the SHO tend to fail and leak oil. Often times the camshaft sensor will get oil in it and fail when the rear camseal leaks, tbut there are also seals behind each of the two timing sprockets (three seals total on an engine). We found a heavy duty rubberized seal almost...

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If it started and you can drive it without any issues, then it was the sensor. You can search for Code 214 on this forum. There are a lot of posts on what is happening. If your cam sensor failed, it could be due to oil leaking from the cam seal. If so, you want to replace that as well since that is probably what caused the sensor to fail. There are posts on how to replace it as well. It's a common problem.

Camshaft Seal 3.0L / 3.2L (89-95) SHO

The camshaft seals on the SHO tend to fail and leak oil. Often times the camshaft sensor will get oil in it and fail when the rear camseal leaks, tbut there are also seals behind each of the two timing sprockets (three seals total on an engine). We found a heavy duty rubberized seal almost...

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It started right up. Which raises the question "why do I need a camshaft sensor?" Is there any special procedure when installing a new sensor to get it to communicate with the ECM? Thanks again for your help.