Mustang GT Brembos

[Ecoboost_xsport]

Haha, it is kinda nice to see what if would look like.



It has kinda grown on me honestly.



Pssshhhhhhh....I would just clear it as it sits! YOLO!

I'm a fan!!! Black/Bronze all day!

 

[PaulTAutoX]

My 2010 non-pp had extremely underwhelming braking from the factory. Even with the D/S Shitastic Powercrap kit... almost put me into the ticket booth at sumerduck due to brake fade.. I was trapping low 90’s in the 1/8th...

My 2016 PP clearly has better brakes but I am with the OP. A big brake setup with some decent multi *** calipers would be a nice addition..

I really want to AutoX the SHO this year, however, am hesitant to do so with the current brakes along with the power I am putting down. I had brake fade a bit last time at MIR.. sucks.


Look at all the pretty surface cracks from over heating on my power stops....

Good braking is important. But you will NOT overheat your brakes doing auto-x. It's one minute at a time, five minutes + between runs, average speed of 40, max speed not over 65-70, and half of your time is spent heeled over in corners, not on the gas or brakes.
The ONLY time I have somewhat overheated street pads in autocross is at an event they laughingly call an 'enduro', which is five laps in a row, so 4-5 minutes of full tilt bozo. And a short idle around the parking area let things cool back down.

 

[Kevin81]

Good braking is important. But you will NOT overheat your brakes doing auto-x. It's one minute at a time, five minutes + between runs, average speed of 40, max speed not over 65-70, and half of your time is spent heeled over in corners, not on the gas or brakes.
The ONLY time I have somewhat overheated street pads in autocross is at an event they laughingly call an 'enduro', which is five laps in a row, so 4-5 minutes of full tilt bozo. And a short idle around the parking area let things cool back down.

Yep.

Only time I EVER experienced brake fade, was on the 3rd lap at Limerock. And I drive the shit outa my cars. Used to auto cross every weekend.

Bottom line is, stock, free floating self adjusting calipers do the job, and do it well. Only real advantage of willwood/Baer/brembo is weight savings. Unless you're driving actual road courses.

 

[SM105K]

Yep.

Only time I EVER experienced brake fade, was on the 3rd lap at Limerock. And I drive the shit outa my cars. Used to auto cross every weekend.

Bottom line is, stock, free floating self adjusting calipers do the job, and do it well. Only real advantage of willwood/Baer/brembo is weight savings. Unless you're driving actual road courses.

I had bad brake fade in the mountains of Southern California. If anyone is familiar with Waterman Rd off the 330 going up to Crestline. Real fast, big sweeping corners. Not bad going up. However when you get into Crestline, and go down towards Silverwood Lake. It is all down hill, very tight curves, and technical. I faded bad about 3/4 down the mountain. My only saving grace was I had somewhat of a 1/8 mile straight to coast and cool off the brakes..

That was after I "upgraded" rotors and pads. Threw those pads in the trash, back to OEM stock PP pads and headed back. No fade this time.

 

[Matt Dylan]

All,

For those interested I could provide the high strength steel CNC machined adapter brackets and mounting hardware so that the 2013+ SHO's could utilize the following Wilwood Super-Light 4 Big Brake Kit which would work in conjunction with the OEM sized 2013+ 14" front rotors. These brackets would be very similar to the ones i designed and manufactured for Lee with the Wilwood Aero6 calipers. This front brake solution would save approximately 10 lbs per corner over stock front brakes. This kit would utilize the following parts which are listed below that can be purchased directly from Summit Racing online. These brackets would imply bolt onto the existing front knuckle and would require zero cutting or fabrication of any kind. It would be a true bolt on solution and could be easily reversed if the owner wanted to revert back to the stock front brakes.

Benefits of this front brake kit include:

• Weight saving of approximately 10 lbs per corner (20lbs total for the front brakes) over the OEM front brake calipers and brackets
• Ability to utilize Wilwood's high quality and easy change brake pads & compounds, BP10 & BP20
• Ability to utilize front stainless braided brake lines which when compared to OEM rubber lines should provide more protection from lines swelling
• Ability to utilize a 4 piston caliper instead of the OEM 2 piston which allows for a more equality distributed clamping force
• Aesthetically the front brakes now have the big brake look that a lot of car enthusiasts prefer

SEP adapter brackets & hardware: $600
Wilwood components required: $626
Total: $1226

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Ok i have a few questions and then I would like an invoice or something to pay for the brackets.

1. I want to go with the caliper that has the 5.18 piston area. Will that cause any problems? Like maybe pedal problems?

2. My 2011 has the exact same knuckle as the 2013+? Right?

3.If I wanted a bracket for the Aero4 calipers, is that available?

4.Are the aero calipers (noticeably) better?

5.do you have any brackets for the rear? I'm considering just putting the 2013+ brakes on the rear.

6. Are there any 2 piece 14" rotors that will work with these brackets?

 

[aaron240]

Ok i have a few questions and then I would like an invoice or something to pay for the brackets.

1. I want to go with the caliper that has the 5.18 piston area. Will that cause any problems? Like maybe pedal problems?

2. My 2011 has the exact same knuckle as the 2013+? Right?

3.If I wanted a bracket for the Aero4 calipers, is that available?

4.Are the aero calipers (noticeably) better?

5.do you have any brackets for the rear? I'm considering just putting the 2013+ brakes on the rear.

6. Are there any 2 piece 14" rotors that will work with these brackets?

Matthew thank you for interest,

I accept PayPal and my username is [email protected]. The cost of the Superlight 4 or Aero6 adapter bracket kit for the Taurus SHO with mounting hardware is $600, shipping for this kit being $25, potentially less on shipping if i can find an adequately sized flat rate box. $625 would be the total order amount. My machine shop vendor usually can get the order manufactured in 3-4 weeks depending on their production lead time. I can check with him once you decide to move forward and can then get a more precise lead time.

1a. Use the Superlight 4 with the 4.84 piston area or the Aero6 with the 5.40 piston area. This size is specified as it needs to match as close as possible to the stock piston area or the awd, traction control, ABS will go nuts and will cause performance and safety issues and concerns.
1b. Lee has successfully used the Aero6 with the 5.40 piston area which is what I calculated would be the best fit for the Taurus SHO and his car operates flawlessly.

2. The knuckles of the 2010-12 should be the same as the 2013 as the oem rotors and calipers are interchangeable. This brake kit is designed around using the 2013+ rotor so that will be required and it is reqomended to use the 2013+ master cylinder as well.

3. Unfortunately no, I only have designed brake kits for the Aero6 and the Super-Light 4 calipers. The Aero6 is the cream of the crop so to speak but the overall kit cost doesn't seem financially justifiable and no one other than Lee purchased a kit. The Superlight 4 is the best bang for the buck and also is a weight savings over stock which is why i chose that caliper to use in the kit I designed.

4. Both the Aero6 and the Superlight4 are great high quality calipers. I personally would go with the Superlight 4 due to the weight savings and they are more affordable than the Aero6.

5. No, It is not cost effective to modify the rear brakes, just use PP pads on oem 2013+ rear caliper and rotors. The front brakes do 70% of the brake work anyways so modifying the front is all that is necessary. Also modifying the rear brakes would require removal of the parking brake which a safety concern.

6. The 2013+ Taurus SHO OEM one piece front rotors are 14". They are cost effective and aftermarket rotors for the 2013+ SHO can be had in drilled and slotted configurations. The 14" 2 piece rotor is very expensive and will prevent the kit from being marketable so I have not pursued that.

 

[aaron240]

As expected and how this proceeded in the past as well, people of the SHO platform "really want a big brake kit with more heavy duty calipers and rotors from the mustang." However, when a feasible bolt on upgrade option does become available, no one follows through. I wish you big brake enthusiasts the best of luck sizing and specifying adequate calipers and rotors along with designing/fabricating your own mounting solution.

 

[Jordan_R]

The brackets were $400 originally that didn't sell either. What made them jump to $600? Are they titanium now?

 

[skyshadow07]

I would be all over the Super-Light 4 set up if I wasn't dumping money into a "top secret" power adder for the platform.

 

[skyshadow07]

The brackets were $400 originally that didn't sell either. What made them jump to $600? Are they titanium now?

I believe he said that at $450 it's a wash for him, no money made. People have to get paid for their time.

 

[aaron240]

I believe he said that at $450 it's a wash for him, no money made. People have to get paid for their time.

Yes exactly, what he said Jordan. The $400 price was an order of 14 brackets sets. Even then my profit wasn’t much. With just making 1 set here and there the machine shop charges quite a bit more for material as I’m not using an entire bar and also the machine setup time is more expensive.

 

[aaron240]

I would be all over the Super-Light 4 set up if I wasn't dumping money into a "top secret" power adder for the platform.

Electric motors from the mach-e??

 

[Jordan_R]

I believe he said that at $450 it's a wash for him, no money made. People have to get paid for their time.

I get that but also the intercooler piping was $400 originally now it's $400 for the group buy lol. Sounds like need to get another machine shop to make the brackets because same materials brackets would cost $100 a set tops. I get your time is worth something but this doesn't add up to anything other than greed or somebody is ******* him on cost

 

[aaron240]

I get that but also the intercooler piping was $400 originally now it's $400 for the group buy lol. Sounds like need to get another machine shop to make the brackets because same materials brackets would cost $100 a set tops. I get your time is worth something but this doesn't add up to anything other than greed or somebody is ******* him on cost

I appreciate your insight Jordan but I highly disagree with cnc machined brackets out of high strength steel that have passed an FEA and were designed in CAD being $100 sale price a set. I will buy the ones your selling ASAP because that’s the deal of a lifetime.

 

[skyshadow07]

Electric motors from the mach-e??

.... .... Who the f**k you been talking to?

 

[aaron240]

I get that but also the intercooler piping was $400 originally now it's $400 for the group buy lol. Sounds like need to get another machine shop to make the brackets because same materials brackets would cost $100 a set tops. I get your time is worth something but this doesn't add up to anything other than greed or somebody is ******* him on cost

If the

.... .... Who the f**k you been talking to?

just watching donut media YouTube vids and making wild guesses lol

 

[skyshadow07]

@aaron240 I'll give you a hint that probably only you'll get without a google search... Hyper9

 

[Jordan_R]

I appreciate your insight Jordan but I highly disagree with cnc machined brackets out of high strength steel that have passed an FEA and were designed in CAD being $100 sale price a set. I will buy the ones your selling ASAP because that’s the deal of a lifetime.

$100 cost as in you're making $500 over machining cost. Like I said you're getting destroyed on pricing or being greedy. If these were so special I would had just gotten in on the free set you offered me, but it's a caliper swap not a big brake kit.

I'm just saying while you're offering a product not many others are you're destroying anybody trying it because of cost. It's just not worth that much.

 

[aaron240]

@aaron240 I'll give you a hint that probably only you'll get without a google search... Hyper9

Damn that was a good guess on my part then lol. I’m excited to see the end results in your build man, that could def bring something new to the table

 

[aaron240]

$100 cost as in you're making $500 over machining cost. Like I said you're getting destroyed on pricing or being greedy. If these were so special I would had just gotten in on the free set you offered me, but it's a caliper swap not a big brake kit.

I'm just saying while you're offering a product not many others are you're destroying anybody trying it because of cost. It's just not worth that much.

Jordan if it’s so affordable sell me the ones you’ve designed and manufactured because I would really like to sit back and stop trying to innovate improvements for the platform with my career related skillset and have someone such as yourself just do it all for me for practically free.