ranger trans combo

[Lupo]

If I'm not mistaken, the 3.0 ranger trans will bolt up (a little grinding necessary however). BUT....it will not fit with the 9.75 SHO clutch/pressure plate. The PP interferes with the bellhousing of the 3.0 a tad, due to it's height and circumference. At least this is what happened the last time my buddy tried the 3.0 with the stock PP. We ended up using a tilton dual 7" clutch, and had no interference issue with the 3.0 bellhousing.

 

[biker889]

If I'm not mistaken, the 3.0 ranger trans will bolt up (a little grinding necessary however). BUT....it will not fit with the 9.75 SHO clutch/pressure plate. The PP interferes with the bellhousing of the 3.0 a tad, due to it's height and circumference. At least this is what happened the last time my buddy tried the 3.0 with the stock PP. We ended up using a tilton dual 7" clutch, and had no interference issue with the 3.0 bellhousing.

Possibly, But here are pics of the SHO trans, AEROStar Bellhousing (which has been used with 9.75 pressure plates) and 3.0 ranger trans. If anything it looks like the ranger trans has more clearance than the aerostar housing and that has worked.

 

[firebat45]

I've got a SHO engine and Ranger tranny bolted together with a full SHO clutch (and Lumina disk) right now. I didn't notice any extra resistance when bolting it together, but I haven't tried rotating the flywheel yet. If it does hit somewhere it's got to be very minor, maybe it could be clearanced away.

The Ranger has a 9 inch clutch stock, 9.75 is not a huge leap from that.

 

[gmail]

update...

autozone has a 1993 lumina 3.4 clutch which is 28 spline and a 9.78inch disc for 39.99 in case anyone is trying to do this...

 

[gmail]

i needed to do a lot a bit of grinding to get the thing to clear...

only thing that sucks now is im gonna have to do some messing around to get the right throwout bearing setup... since what im using is hydro clutch and the ranger trans is also i was hoping to get lucky and it all be plug and play but i guess i was wrong...

anyone deal with this issue on this trans yet to see how to get the throwout bearing setup to work?

 

[AREA 91]

Flywheel, pressure plate, and mounting bolts donated to the cause.

 

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Flywheel, pressure plate, and mounting bolts donated to the cause.

yeah they worked out great also everything cleared nicely...

only problem im having is the throwout bearing is riding on the pressure plate without the throwout being compressed, im sure its gonna push way to far once the throwout if compressed against the fingers on the pressure plate...

there is a spring in there which holds it out and i think i might be able to mess with that some to get it not to hit like it is but as for adjusting the throw im not sure if you can bleed it down enough to adjust it properly

 

[RAYJAY]

ok a little off topic but what atx trans will fit the sho motor ??

 

[Off Road SHO]

Any Auto that was bolted to the Vulcan V-6 in the AeroStars (A4LD), and Rangers (A4LD). Wikipedia and the search button is your friend. The ArLD can be beefed up to take the SHO's power.

Tom

 

[26nov]

Tom's right on the money when it comes to knowing about the transmission.
I have an A4LD tranny and a 3.2 SHO I putting in a 62 Comet.
Glad to find ya Tom!

Robert

 

[RAYJAY]

Tom's right on the money when it comes to knowing about the transmission.
I have an A4LD tranny and a 3.2 SHO I putting in a 62 Comet.
Glad to find ya Tom!

Robert

robert is the A4LD computer controlled ?? if so what are you using to run it ??

 

[26nov]

No the A4LD I have is not controlled by the computer.
There is two versions I beleive of the A4LD, and the early ones (1988-1993) are not computer controlled and the 1994-1996 are controlled by a computer. It is best if you check this out with a trans shop. Also look at this website to gather some more info.
http://www.kurtmetros.com/transplant1.html

Robert

 

[Cross Eyed Joe]

Does anyone know if 4WD Mazda M50D-R1HD trans will bolt up the same as the 2WD? The cases look considerably different on this web site:

http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/ManualTransmission.html

Pictures are about half way down the page.

 

[biker889]

Yes, as long as it came off of a 3.0 V6 it will.

 

[rubydist]

the M5OD-R1HD is only made in the 4.0 bell housing case, so no, it won't bolt up. the 4wd trans from a 3.0 Ranger will bolt up as stated above. I have been told several times that the HD internals will fit in the 3.0 case, but have not personally verified this. The HD gearset has slightly different ratio for 1st as I recall, but not much.

you guys contemplating using the Ranger trans should know that it does not shift particularly well, and at 7000+ rpm I suspect it will shift with even more difficulty. but it does hold up well to even boosted Ranger 4.0 engines, so it has a good chance of being stout enough for the job.

 

[Cross Eyed Joe]

you guys contemplating using the Ranger trans should know that it does not shift particularly well, and at 7000+ rpm I suspect it will shift with even more difficulty. but it does hold up well to even boosted Ranger 4.0 engines, so it has a good chance of being stout enough for the job.

Does the Ranger Trans shift worse with the SHO then in the Ranger its self? I Guess what I'm getting at is, can I test drive a Ranger to determine if I can live with its shifting?

I am considering a "Pre-Runner" style 4WD off-road SHO powered Beast. I'll probably do less shifting blasting around gravel roads and desert then in my MTX. Are there any better 4WD transmissions out there that might work? My original idea was to drop the SHO into a Toyota, Nissan, or Like. Then I found that the Ranger Trans will bolt up so I am leaning more towards dropping the SHO into a 4WD Ranger.

I know that T5 guts in a 2WD is probably the proper way to set up a Pre-Runner off-road truck but, I need to maintain low speed traction to climb around the occasional steep, narrow, wet trails.

 

[biker889]

I drive a 99' ranger and a 94' sho daily. The ranger is much easier to shift than the SHO. even revving it out it still shifts pretty good.

 

[rubydist]

it depends a great deal on the condition of the syncros - its hard to find a SHO mtx that has good syncros, so they are handicapped by that. And, how the SHO shifts is significantly dependent on the condition of the clutch, in my experience.

the Ranger trans 2-3 shift particularly is easy to miss or grind when shifting fast, because the gate is too wide. and, it is virtually impossible to power-shift a Ranger trans.

you will be able to tell how it works by driving a Ranger - it won't be that much different connected to the SHO motor, just a little harder to shift at the high rpms. and, you will want to check the condition of the 2nd gear syncro in the exact trans you want to use, if possible - the relatively larger ratio change from 1st to 2nd and the high rpms of the SHO motor means the 2nd gear syncro gets a real workout.

I'm not saying that the Ranger trans is bad, I'm just saying it won't shift silky smooth like you would expect an integral-shifter trans to shift.

 

[Dan Fredrickson]

Just an FYI, we are building a 7200 desert truck, 3.2 SHO powered with the Aerostar AUTO bell and a C4, Tuesday or Wenesday we will be building the adapter. Likely going to be a weldon piece but should be no problem. I will post some pics after.

 

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agreed the ranger trans isnt ment for the high rev but i also agree it will probley do the job as good as a SHO trans..

been some time since i had my 92 out and i was cleaning the garage about a week ago so i thought ok ill take it out let it stretch its legs...

first off i bottomed the bumper out on the road, kicked my ass then continued..

i went out stretched 1st out then went to shift to second....... grind hard.... felt bad then remembered i needed to change the fluid to a better kind because the syncros are worn out...

that being said most of the SHOs ive driven are that bad where if you dont baby shift them and lose all the momentum they grind and refuse to go in.. at least for the 1-2 2-3 shifts