wiper stalk cap

[nutorious_sho]

So i've read the past threads about how to clean this thing out.

My question is how to get the cap off without killing it, I've triied using a small screwdriver but i seem to just be mauling the edges, I've triied pulling on it and I feel like i'm going to yank the stalk right out of the switch.

Any other ideas without killing it? Does it have to be rotated a certain degree to get the thing out?

 

[SHOZ123]

No it just prise out. The is a small spring and a three contact wiper arm too.

 

[sdpatt]

Use a small flathead screwdiver to gently pry the cap off.

 

[nutorious_sho]

ok, i figured out that I'm not supposed to try and pry off the entire rotating peice, just the small end cap

Unfortunately this is not the culprate, the connections all looked good, and the dielectric grease was still clear/white in color. Unless I am suppose to take off the small circular circiut board as well

So I still have the same problem.

no wiper action, everything else works, even the washer pump.

I already triied a different used motor (took the wiring harness off intalled motor and plugged it into a different unit (used)) with no luck.

Still am getting a clicking sound coming from the instrament panel when I rotate the switch to the on position.

So my guess is that its either the entire MFS or the governor.

Any bets??? or other ideas??

 

[SHOZ123]

Must be the wiper module then.

 

[Camarok]

yeah I'd have to say that i've tried the whole cleaning the wiper stalk out... WATCH OUT! SMALL PIECES GO FLYING IF YOU DON'T TAKE YOUR TIME!

where might I find this module then... Internitent sucks!!!

 

[nutorious_sho]

I've never heard of a wiper module....

Do I have 1???? If I do then where do I have to kick it??

If I don't, do I need 1 and where can I get it so I can kick it then????

 

[SHOZ123]

Pre '93 they are called an Interval Governor and after '93 they are called the Wiper Module. Both are on the LH vertical IP brace located behind the radio cluster.

 

[nutorious_sho]

ok, so my govenor on my '94 is now called the module :corn:

i heard it was behind the instament cluster, but your saying behind the radio

Before I start ripping stuff out can I get a conformation on the location, and when I rip apart my dash what am I exactly looking for?

And finally should I clean, fix, or replace the darn thing once I find it?

Please treat me as a 9 year old school girl when it comes to car electrical stuff.
mechanical and audio I am proficient, but electrical I cant tell a relay from a switch.

Thanks

 

[SHOZ123]

Well I have never had to deal with the nefarious module/governor. I am going by diagrams which show it on the instrument panel brace. I would assume you can see it from the drivers foot well. I doubt if you could repair it but the connector may be loose or corroded.

It has one connector that has 12 wires on it. It is also a common Taurus part.

 

[nutorious_sho]

well, i have spent the last 2 hours reading past threads and found 1 in the Engine driveline forum... (go figure) by - Mike92Silver entitled - please help, dangerous wiper situation i need resolved!

good 1 to read http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=16085&highlight=wiper

I'm thinking of just replacing the whole darn switch just to be sure and working from there. :cuss:

 

[SHOZ123]

I'm thinking of just replacing the whole darn switch just to be sure and working from there. :cuss:

That is always an option.

Look here to see how to test the switch.

 

[Camarok]

ahh paul... can always count on him for some good stuff! thanks man!

 

[Camarok]

ok then... well i just looked at partsamerica.com noticed the switch is less then 50 bucks... I've replaced this on my dad's 97 lumina... just need to rent a few parts for the steering wheel but it's not that bad of a job, and the part is realitivly reasonably priced.

apparently this is the same part number for first and second gens
el' switch'o

GL all... I may have to buy one myself!
OHHH!!! Late addition to the chirstmas list!

 

[nutorious_sho]

Darn paul, when you try and help you really try and help!!

well I've ordered the new switch already, and I figure since its on its way and the column will be off anyway I might as well replace. and if it works.... well.... 50 bucks isnt that bad. if it were say 75 i would most certainly test the leads.

Thanks again

BTW Paul since I have you (or anyone else for that matter) here could you tell me what wire to snip to get rid of my e-brake light??? It's like a little glowing red light that stares at me whenever I drive. :banghd:

Thanks

 

[SHOZ123]

On my '97 the MFS would barely work the wipers and I bought a new switch. After installing the new one I took the old one and hosed it down with WD40 while working all the different motions. That switch tested out good as new when I was done.

I'm sure that picture will be used in the future.

 

[nutorious_sho]

Ok, so I took out the old MFS (remember what was wrong with it? No wipers at all) and unplugged the harnesses and plugged them into brand new one... SAME PROBLEM! When looking at the old as compared to the new in relation to the pins, they almost look identical in color and form (no dirt or grime), if not looking at the external wear on the old I would not be able to tell the difference.

So I reinstalled the old with the same problem with some additionals.
Now when my HL's come on and I signal left the side light comes on and stays on

just to make sure Im not missing anything, as far as the motor goes all I should have to do to test the new one is unplug the 1 harness and stick it into the new 1 right??? doesn't have to be mounted right???

 

[SHOZ123]

You did get one for a '94 yes? The best way to test the switch is with an ohm meter as the test procedure states.

 

[nutorious_sho]

yup it is '94, I'll try with an ohm meter as soon as I can find one to borrow

 

[Racer X]

I'm gonna go with your WCM (Wiper Control Module) on this one. It's behind the IP, above the chime box, on the same bracket.

When I get home later, I'll see if I can find the extra one I have lying around. It's in good shape. If I can find it, you cover shipping and it's yours.

PM me if your interested.