sometime car won't start for 10 minutes

[oboytroyman]

This problem is very infrequent, but yesterday morning I started the car, stalled it(hah oops), tried to start again and it just kept cranking and cranking. After 10 min of this it hesitated one time so I gave It gas and it started. After that it started Fine and ran normal. Several hours later went to belle tire. I go to leave and it did the same thing as earlier except I only had to try and start it 3 times. (giving it no gas at all too) I just had cam and crank sensors, fuel filter, timing belt, and cam and crank seals all replaced with water pump too. Any ideas?? I really don't want to get stranded anywhere! This Issue hasn't occurred for at least a month and usually if it doesn't start like that and I get it running it runs 100% normal. Has done this since I bought the car about 7000 miles ago but.. like I said usually is infrequent

 

[ViPER1313]

IDK, my car does the same thing occasionally, but only if I stall it due to my poor driving skills while the motor is still cold (the car doesn't stall on its own - is yours stalling all by itself?). When it happens, it's almost like a carbed car that has a flooded motor. I always find that pulsing the gas pedal to the floor (IE... push to floor, let off, push to floor, let off) while cranking the motor will restart it in 2 or 3 seconds. There is always a huge cloud of black smoke out the back after one of these stalls. It *seems* to have gone away after I replaced my coil pack and fuel pump, but I make no scientific diagnosis on that.

 

[TYSHO]

Do you hear your fuel pump coming on? If not, bang on the CCRM. It sounds like the relay is sticking, keeping the power from reaching the fuel pump.

 

[itwonder]

X2 the advice to floor the gas pedal and crank it. Mine has rarely done what your describe since new and flooring the pedal has always worked.

 

[rubydist]

those times when it won't start - does the tach needle move while cranking?

a bad cam sensor will make the timing wrong, and it won't start until the pcm guesses right.

when you are cranking and not starting, you are putting gas into the cylinders. this flooding is not good for the cylinder walls or bearings. you should avoid long cranking w/o starting to avoid damage.

 

[ycode90]

The fuel pump doesn't come back on after initial prime till the car starts your not flooding it . I vote CCRM or maybe crank sensor.

 

[aar_man]

I have the exact problem with my 95. Had the starter replaced, went to leave the garage and stalled the car.
Same deal, crank no start. Had my mechanic buddy come out and we started to check. Relay came on , good pressure at the rail. Spark, pulled the front three plugs and each had spark.
Have fuel, have spark...should run right?
Checked the plugs, all were wet. Flooding was the general answer but WHY?
Let it sit for several days and it started. Drove it home but now it stalls out when I have run the car down the road and decellerate to make a turn and the rpm's fall. It is like the low idle doesn't catch it...have had to pop the clutch while the car is rolling to restart. Sure don't want it to stall out again.
Sounds like a common problem with these cars when they get some miles..mine has 130,000. Had the full service at 60 and 120.

 

[oboytroyman]

I stalled the car myself, It didn't just quit running on its own. I'm not sure if after i stall it the tach needle moves or not...but it's weird you mention that. Normally when starting the car my tach needle moves back and forth before it starts running and then settles at idle once it's running. It did this before i had the cam and crank sensors replaced and does it now still that they're replaced. I read somewhere to replace the cam or crank sensor and the car wont do that any more..yet mine still does. My car seems to be running fine otherwise.