Slicks...

[SHOspazz92]

Ok, From my understanding DR's would probably be worse on the halfshafts then slicks due to the hard compound of the DR's, Producing wheel hop. If this is the case, could the stock transmission handle the Shock of slicks? I would imagin not, But I dont know for sure...and 1,000 bucks for HD axles isnt exactly an option at the moment. I know Mark N. Ran slicks on his SR71 SHO but with a Quaife. Any thoughts on this?

-Sam

 

[SuperHO]

basically, the shock from the slicks would either blow the halfshafts or the diff.

Basically, when a diff pin blows, it's because the roll pins that hold em in place break. they break because of shock on the transmission (i.e. hard clutch drops, hard shifts, etc). Dumping the clutch at high RPMs with slicks will give it that shock....and I've heard that stock axles will blow out with straight slicks.

DRs supposedly work phenomenally on stock axles, but you still run the risk of shearing roll pins on the diff.

 

[RonPorter]

You can produce wheel hop with street tires.....

Any thought that DRs are worse than slicks is not true. What blows parts is the torque applied to that part. DRs lie between street tires and full slicks for their ability to load the drivetrain.

Key with even sticky street tires is to have a very tight front suspension, as wheel hop only gets worse with stickier tires.

 

[SHOspazz92]

You can produce wheel hop with street tires.....

Any thought that DRs are worse than slicks is not true. What blows parts is the torque applied to that part. DRs lie between street tires and full slicks for their ability to load the drivetrain.

Key with even sticky street tires is to have a very tight front suspension, as wheel hop only gets worse with stickier tires.

Thank you. What Im looking for is as low as 60' possible without hurting my drivetrain...to much. 1.9-2.0 Would be a dream come true.

-Sam

 

[NJSHO]

I broke an axle on street tires with low pressure.

 

[1993MTXSHO]

people have busted axles with bone stock shos on street tires having slicks will only make your chances better. However if you learn how to drive your sho correctly with them ie. not slamming a really hard load on at once, you shouldn't break them. You can go hard but don't dump the clutch let the axles feel the load for a split seconds before letting the clutch all the way out.

P.S. "if you want to play youll have to pay" so just plan on breaking axels sometimes, there not horribly expensive for stock axels and I don't think to hard to replace, some guys change them at the track.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

However if you learn how to drive your sho correctly with them ie. not slamming a really hard load on at once, you shouldn't break them. You can go hard but don't dump the clutch let the axles feel the load for a split seconds before letting the clutch all the way out.

Exactly.

Preload the driveline before a launch, and enjoy less breakage

 

[Huntervf]

Think of it this way... stock half shafts are like fuses for the tranny. They'll pop before something else does

 

[AREA 91]

That's great, and soo true. I've broken 9 driver's side shafts with my drag radials in my plus. Any launch over 3K ='s CV boom.

 

[Jonny Cash]

Ok, From my understanding DR's would probably be worse on the halfshafts then slicks due to the hard compound of the DR's, Producing wheel hop. If this is the case, could the stock transmission handle the Shock of slicks? I would imagin not, But I dont know for sure...and 1,000 bucks for HD axles isnt exactly an option at the moment. I know Mark N. Ran slicks on his SR71 SHO but with a Quaife. Any thoughts on this?

-Sam

You need to figure out a way to keep the ass end of the car from slamming during hard accel. Your NA right? You dont need slicks then. Like you said, any grip that a DR will give you will result in wheel hop.. and thats when your most likely to break stuff.

Dont think to hard about it. The Taurus was just never meant to launch, and the tranny was never meant for any real power. The weight transfer is the biggest reason the SHO has no traction. I would start there if I was looking for decent 60' times. Just look around... guys are pulling low 14's on street tires..

If you could lighten the car considerably, and reinforce the rear suspension somehow, youd see a huge difference. If there was anyone out there really serious about pulling a 11 second pass with a V6 yamaha in a Taurus body.. It could happen.

 

[SHOspazz92]

You need to figure out a way to keep the ass end of the car from slamming during hard accel. Your NA right? You dont need slicks then. Like you said, any grip that a DR will give you will result in wheel hop.. and thats when your most likely to break stuff.

Dont think to hard about it. The Taurus was just never meant to launch, and the tranny was never meant for any real power. The weight transfer is the biggest reason the SHO has no traction. I would start there if I was looking for decent 60' times. Just look around... guys are pulling low 14's on street tires..

If you could lighten the car considerably, and reinforce the rear suspension somehow, youd see a huge difference. If there was anyone out there really serious about pulling a 11 second pass with a V6 yamaha in a Taurus body.. It could happen.

Im looking at SHO's as of now. Im currently have my Eyes on a Green 91+. Any SHO I get I plan on running a Zex kit for about a Month or so when Im home in april, just for a few runs down the strip. I'm Just hoping with the Right Launch, a 8.8-8.9 Is possible. (1/8TH) We'll see.

-Sam

 

[BlackonBlack89]

You need to figure out a way to keep the ass end of the
If you could lighten the car considerably, and reinforce the rear suspension somehow, youd see a huge difference. If there was anyone out there really serious about pulling a 11 second pass with a V6 yamaha in a Taurus body.. It could happen.

What do the GTP guys do....they have FWD and they are into the 11's. what have they done to their back suspension. I know they have wheelie bars; would that help a SHO?

just wondering same class of car kinda FWD and Heavy

 

[PAracer]

The SHO would be helped by a stiffer rear end. A set of spring rubbers (NASCAR term) to take up the travel of two or three coils would help. I like the idea of putting a solid link between the rear arms and the unibody. This would eliminate suspension movement, but I know for a fact that my rear control arms would bend on the return road.

 

[Jonny Cash]

What do the GTP guys do....they have FWD and they are into the 11's. what have they done to their back suspension. I know they have wheelie bars; would that help a SHO?

just wondering same class of car kinda FWD and Heavy

They have gears

Theres a few things you could do... But I cant leak it. Not until I run 12's.

dont quote me on that.

 

[BlackonBlack89]

Why???

 

[Jonny Cash]

Im looking at SHO's as of now. Im currently have my Eyes on a Green 91+. Any SHO I get I plan on running a Zex kit for about a Month or so when Im home in april, just for a few runs down the strip. I'm Just hoping with the Right Launch, a 8.8-8.9 Is possible. (1/8TH) We'll see.

-Sam

Forget that. Bring that skyline over here, Ill give you my 91 plus( with NO rust btw), and all the things you need to go fast in a SHO. A custom vortech kit, dry zex kit, all the supporting mods... everything. Straight up trade, whaddya say?

 

[drivinhard]

In my experience, slicks were much easier on the car than drag radials. The SHO has so much rearward weight transfer, when you dump the clutch, it's not like a RWD car on slicks with soft springs where it just hooks and goes. You can spin the slicks (at least I did) pretty substantially with anything over a 4k clutch drop. You could be more aggressive with the clutch take up than with drag radials, but I never ever side stepped it (and got it to hook good). I'd run it to about 3500 rpm, and just got a feel for going WOT the same time I released. It was actually very non-eventful, the car just leaves the line harder but the big key is with big power (n20, blower) you could pull through 1st gear without wheelspin, thats' where all the ET came from. I ran Hoosier quicktime pro 26x9.5x16. I sold them to josh when I moved from NY down here and he's run in the 12's in his car with them as well. If you like to run at the drags, and have some big power, I would highly recommend them. I usually ran them with about 12-14 lbs of air in them. Get the rear end stiff to keep weight on them ,and do a big burn out for heat, and it'll take off like no SHO on a radial ever will.

 

[somedude_001]

What do the GTP guys do....they have FWD and they are into the 11's. what have they done to their back suspension. I know they have wheelie bars; would that help a SHO?

just wondering same class of car kinda FWD and Heavy

they are automatic, and that is a huge part of it. I can gaurantee that my ATX will run low 13's maybe even poke into the 12's on a completely stock engine + boost. just wait till the tracks open again in the spring.

 

[AREA 91]

:corn:

 

[centaurus3200]

drag radials and slicks make a big difference for SHO drag times. Tyler went from 15.1 to 14.70 with just BFG drag radials. only mod was a y-pipe. ran 13.8 on a 75 shot.

he never broke an axle. i can't fix crap, BUT aren't rebuilt axles only like $75/side? buy a few and throw them in the trunk ;-)

i agree, rear airbags are a good idea to keep the weight on the front.try some spring spacers as an option.

oh yeah, don't beat the **** out of your SHO unless you have a QUAIFE!

see ya,
Robby