Reinforced motor mount or paperweight????

[lowc]

i agree we have all had that part that kicked the shit out of us although half of us wont admite it and had some one else put it in like it was a tail ight bulb.. although he did go about the post and rant the wrong way lets give him a break maybe he was having a bad day when he op

 

[lowc]

i agree we have all had that part that kicked the shit out of us although half of us wont admite it and had some one else put it in like it was a tail ight bulb.. although he did go about the post and rant the wrong way lets give him a break maybe he was having a bad day when he op

wouldnt let me edit

but im sure he feels like a dick cause he didnt bother to thank (atleast on here)anyone for their help

 

[sperold]

I don't think he handled it too badly.
Shosource didn't like being told their stuff doesn't fit and our poster didn't like being told that....all sales are final. Kind of a draw.
The one thing I learned was: if Sho4life is right that repairing your own mount is not too nasty, then that is a better solution than buying a reworked one.
The OP said the old mount went in and out with no difficulty. That I like.
Everyone seems to imply that this is one hard job to get right.
I am not in a big hurry to buy a reworked one if this situation awaits me.
Next time around, I am going to try to fix my old mount (if time allows).
Who knows, 1989 was a long time ago. Maybe some manufacturers tried making this mount, did a bad job, bailed, and now these things are the cores we are trying to work with. At least you know the one that is in there already.... fits.

 

[1995mtxsho]

Now bolt that assembly to an engine and try to get the stud into the hole in the subframe... That is the issue, NOT bolting it to the bracket!

 

[NWGRN94MTX]

that reinforced mount doesnt look very good, i bought a two part mixture to fill it in, drilled two bolts throught it and it is rock solid.. guaranteed mine will never break. ive heard of people busting the reinforced ones form sho nut and sho source!!

Instead of innuendo, please do tell. Who have
you heard has broke our mounts?

 

[NWGRN94MTX]

I don't think he handled it too badly.
Shosource didn't like being told their stuff doesn't fit and our poster didn't like being told that....all sales are final. Kind of a draw.
The one thing I learned was: if Sho4life is right that repairing your own mount is not too nasty, then that is a better solution than buying a reworked one.
The OP said the old mount went in and out with no difficulty. That I like.
Everyone seems to imply that this is one hard job to get right.
I am not in a big hurry to buy a reworked one if this situation awaits me.
Next time around, I am going to try to fix my old mount (if time allows).
Who knows, 1989 was a long time ago. Maybe some manufacturers tried making this mount, did a bad job, bailed, and now these things are the cores we are trying to work with. At least you know the one that is in there already.... fits.

Excuse me, but ********. You do not know the whole story.

 

[jmpSHO]

None of us really no the whole story except SHO Source and the OP, from what I can read on here so far SHO Source should really send him another mount and be done with it. I love SHO Source and all my transactions with them have gone smoothly, all there parts have worked great and they're communication has been really good too.

 

[HotRodKid]

Now bolt that assembly to an engine and try to get the stud into the hole in the subframe... That is the issue, NOT bolting it to the bracket!

you should work on your reading comprehension, and mrcoolguywhocantmakestufffitanybetterthentheOP posted this about HIS attempts to fit it

it seams to SPECIFICALLY state that the mount is defective in a manner that wont allow it to bolt to the ENGINE

Allen called me after his call to SHO Source.
From what he told me, it appeared that SHO Source would not help.
Allen said SHO SOurce says all sales are finale.
I suggested to Allen that he ...
1) Bring the mount to me and I would modify to fit.
2) Report a claim to the Attorney General.
3) Make a post on shoforum.com under the hall of fame or shame.
Allen brought his SHO to me for a PS pump replacement.
I had also tried to install the reinforced mount to no avail.
It appears that the valley support rod/tube was welded in position too high (circled area).
The paint was wore away from several install attempts.
This causes the thru bolts to miss align with the weld on nuts (see side view).
The receiving side of the mount must go higher to allow the bolts to engage the nuts.
We did a bit of grinding to the valley support rod/tube but more is needed.
Allen is a good guy and I support his claim.

 

[moobypets]

still love your quote with me in there lol

but the mount is sopposed to be back to shonut and will be checked but im sure the guy just want the $$ back so to be sure he get his $$ back he will tell it doesnt fit

impossible shonut last time show me how he make them and they look like a real and perfect fit from the original so shonut and shosource are not to blame on this

and if by some odd reson the mount dont fit they will send him a replacement

 

[Ian Macoomb]

The Test Fit with SHONut worked!
From Josh:
Got the mount today. It was a tight squeeze to slide it over the mounting bracket, but that's expected. Once it was slid over, I threaded the bolts in with my fingers, first try.

I witnessed said test fit. No problems at all.

 

[moobypets]

so then some people suck at installing engine mount lol

 

[1995mtxsho]

you should work on your reading comprehension, and mrcoolguywhocantmakestufffitanybetterthentheOP posted this about HIS attempts to fit it

it seams to SPECIFICALLY state that the mount is defective in a manner that wont allow it to bolt to the ENGINE

Correct, I CAN read, But I have also installed one of these before.

If the stud is in place through the subframe, chances are the holes and bolts wont line up at the ENGINE.

The same is true if the mount is bolted to the engine first, it will then not line up with the hole in the subframe.

I am 150% positive there is nothing wrong with the mount.

But a modified mount, especially the rear, will never just drop in.

However. a test fit of the mount at the engine with the mount NOT in the subframe/car is pointless.

 

[IM Buddy8]

Correct, I CAN read, But I have also installed one of these before.

If the stud is in place through the subframe, chances are the holes and bolts wont line up at the ENGINE.

The same is true if the mount is bolted to the engine first, it will then not line up with the hole in the subframe.

I am 150% positive there is nothing wrong with the mount.

But a modified mount, especially the rear, will never just drop in.

However. a test fit of the mount at the engine with the mount NOT in the subframe/car is pointless.

That test fit wasn't pointless mrcool (not trying to be mean) said the issue was where it bolted to the engine basically it wouldn't thread into the welded on nuts.. So that test fit was a good start. But it's just as easy to measure.. No need to actually put it there measurements will tell you the same thing.

 

[mrecoolgar]

I had one bolt threaded on the top mount.
I then lowered the engine thinking the weight would allow the second to be threaded.
The lower mount stud went right in the hole.
But I still couldn't thread the second top mount bolt.
I'm thinking Allens car has an interference problem on the block side.
The reinforced mount was rocking side to side on a center pivot point on something.
LOUDSHO92's photos show that there are no clearance issues.

 

[pjtoledo]

I had one bolt threaded on the top mount.
I then lowered the engine thinking the weight would allow the second to be threaded.
The lower mount stud went right in the hole.
But I still couldn't thread the second top mount bolt.
I'm thinking Allens car has an interference problem on the block side.
The reinforced mount was rocking side to side on a center pivot point on something.
LOUDSHO92's photos show that there are no clearance issues.

BINGO!!!!!!!

and we all know what the next picture should be.



Perry

 

[gmail]

you know its not always about the mount being stiff that it dont fit there is adjustment you can get out of the mount.

i have a set of MMs i made using bolts which work very very well and i can adjust the amount of stiffness in them threw the bolt torque but also i have a gen 3 subframe swap with gen 3 rack and when the subframe was made basicly we just lowered a SHO engine and trans onto the subframe and welded etc.

anyways the solid mounts i made did not want to line up right but if you spend some time loosing things up, you will be amazed how much adjustment they actually have.

if i remember my mount was off almost 1 1/2 inchs and i was able to get it down perfectly. i didnt see exactly what has happened with this but i am in the harrisburg area and i would be glad to fix the problem for you even if we need to make some minor mods to the mount itself and reweld it or whatever...

 

[moobypets]

to install some time you may have to remove some other sub frame bolt to help lining it up

 

[SHODWN]

to install some time you may have to remove some other sub frame bolt to help lining it up

No you dont.. Not for a Motor mount..

The New Motor mounts are stiffer than stock, when you jack the motor up you change its position.. Lossen all the other mounts (mounting nuts/bolts ) so it wiggles a bit and it will fall into place everytime..

It takes three things to install a motor mount:

1. Time
2. Muscles
The Most important thing!!!

3. 1/2 a working Brain cell.

It came from Josh, it might have well came from Mother Ford!

 

[illSHOyou]

No you dont.. Not for a Motor mount..

The New Motor mounts are stiffer than stock, when you jack the motor up you change its position.. Lossen all the other mounts (mounting nuts/bolts ) so it wiggles a bit and it will fall into place everytime..

It takes three things to install a motor mount:

1. Time
2. Muscles
The Most important thing!!!

3. 1/2 a working Brain cell.

It came from Josh, it might have well came from Mother Ford!

What he said, plus if you have a working drill make it work!

 

[Sho Amo]

I have personally bought mounts from ShoNut. They when In and out no more difficult than the stockers.


I also, had both fail on me. The rear was saturated with oil, so obviously not the mounts fault. The front on the other hand, no excuse.