PLEASE HELP

[Jesse]

hello i dont know if you remember my problem but here goes, i was driving down the road in my 91 sho, and it lost power and died (wasnt running it hard, i was babying it) well that was bout a month ago. I went to take spark plugs out when i noticed they were completly full of oil . And it was turning over crappy and not starting. Well i got the oil out and blew the oil out of the cylinders. I put new spark plugs in and now im waiting for the sparkplug wires cause they had 2 be specially ordered. What would cause this leak the oil was ontop of the sparkplugs. ??? im guessing a bad head casket. I dont thin that the head is bad but it could be. What should i do? and is this most likly my problem? i would say yes but just wanna pick your brains. Pluss the water runs low which point to a cracked head but i see no leak i do know the heating core was leaking but i dont know how bad. pluss alot of oil was being used and their was no smoking of exaust or liquid running from exuast plz help i would be very happy. I know its going to be a pain to work on i should prolly do my 60k tune up right now huh?

 

[Jesse]

Also would the smell of gas be due 2 no spark? since the gas isnt ingiting?

 

[LI_SHO]

Leaking plug well seals...thats your first problem. Relatively easy fix, as all you have to do is change them out after removing the valve covers. Its part of the 60k...no reason to worry though, your oil consumption is probably due to this. The head gasket on these cars rarely go...so i'd highly doubt that is any problem. As for your coolant leak, maybe that heater core is a bigger problem than you expected.

 

[Jesse]

the coolent leak may be nothing im not sure if it still leaks i found out about it when i pulled back the passenger carpet dried wet spot where it was prolly leaking. So would the oil prob cause it from starting and sounding crappy while turning over?

 

[LI_SHO]

If the passenger floorboard is wet...that means your heater core just took a dump on you (not a fun job to fix). Youre going to have to replace it, and when you do your coolant leak problems should be taken care of. As for oil in the plug wells...crappy wires make all the difference between a car that runs well, and one that does not. You really should do those plug well seals to prevent oil from fouling your new plugs and wires too

 

[Jesse]

the real thing im wondering if that oil would make the car sound extreamly crap while turning over. What are my odds for my engine still being good??

 

[LI_SHO]

did you clean out the plug wells before removing the plugs?

 

[luigisho]

Jesse, Your engine more than likely is fine. Does the coolant continue to leak?
To fix the oil problem you need to order the felpro gasket kit vs50378r for the valve cover gaskets and the seals for the spark plug tubes. If you use the search feature in this section you will get more than enough info. on this.
You will probably need two intake manifold gaskets too motorcraft e9dz-9439-a. You can get these cheap from fordpartsnetwork.com or fordpartsonline.com. Go there for the correct sparkplugs and wires too.
If there is significant oil leaking into the plug wells I wouldn't run new plugs and wires long without addressing the leak as it will eventually ruin your new and expensive parts.

 

[Jesse]

yes, but some of it got down in the cylinders, i tryed blowing it out by turning it over with out spark plug in it. i think i got most of it out
what about the gas smell? is that due to the fuel not burning cause of no spark??

 

[luigisho]

Well that's not helping. There's likely more than just oil in there. Probably some dirt or gritty sediment of some kind to score the cylinder walls. Clean these out as well as you can before you remove any sparkplugs. Again there is a ton of information and experience stored in the archives here. Use the search function and it will probably answer questions you never even thought to ask.

 

[Jesse]

i bought the cheap sparkplugs just as to test the car to see if it will run. im going to buy the boss spark plugs. How much would you say the cost of these parts would be?and the head gasket most deff not be the prob cause it is lower than where the leak is am i right? i think the collent leak happened before i bought the car, i know my ac doesnt work needs filled, but i dont think i can get the stuff to fill it and dont know how much it would cost to convert it. Would you say i found my car problem? that leak is why my car lost power and died, it did start after that but sounded like shit and now doesnt start at all

 

[luigisho]

I would say if the oil fouled your wires it would run poorly and maybe not at all. The best thing to do is to check for any computer codes. There is a procedure on the shotimes.com website and a link to the dalidesign website there too. Poke around there in the care and feeding section to pick up a few pointers. The valve cover gasket set is around $70-75 the wires are around $85 and the correct plugs are $4 each. Not cheap but necessary. There could be other things wrong but this is the starting point.

 

[Jesse]

well i arleady got spark plugs waiting on wires that will be in today. Before i can get codes the car has to run. The computer clears itself it doesnt store unless in has been ran, i had the battery out since it died so it cleared my memory

 

[Jesse]

anyone help??

 

[RStalveyARFF]

Bosch plugs are not the correct plugs for this car, and you will see them fouled in short time. The correct plugs are the AGSP32PP plugs available from fordpartsnetwork.com for about 32 shipped to your door.

 

[Ishodu]

Save yourself some time and money and get the motocraft ones right away...

 

[Jesse]

I KNOW! I bought these so i dont destroy the motorcraft ones. I am just using these to make it run so i can take it to the shop. I dont need help on what brand parts i need. Just what is my car problem!!!!!!!! LOL

 

[shojuan]

Sacrificial spark plugs, good use for cheap parts.

Rick

 

[Jesse]

so is that bad seal my prob?

 

[shojuan]

It sounds like your water pump is leaking and shorting out your CPS. This would explain the car dying a month ago. Also, the pump can continue to leak for a long long time without any noticable evidence because the coolant drips down onto the cat where it evaporates instantly leaving no trace. You need to check the weep hole underneath the pump for evidence of coolant leakage. If it's leaking then pump replacement and CPS replacement would be in order. At the same time replace the front main seal, timing belt and accessory belts.

A lot of things can cause the car to turn over like crap and not start. Could be a CID sensor (easy to replace). If your car is more or less running now then you can worry about that later.

As was suggested by several people first things first. It doesn't matter if the oil in the plug wells is all of your problem or just part of your problem. It needs to be fixed by replacing the plug well seals. Check your valves while you're in there, replace your intake manifold to head gasket and valve cover gaskets (VC gaskets included with felpro plug well kit. Intake gaskets are separate). While the intake is off clean the crap out of it (lots of Berryman's B12. Undisputably the stuff of choice for that task. Clean the crap out of the lower intake runners (the head intake ports) too.

Don't bother putting on your new wires until you have cleaned the spark plug wells, replaced the plug well gaskets and are ready to install the final, proper motorcraft spark plugs.

Add it all up and you are starting to talk a full 60K. All these things work together as a system. When it's all taken care of then it really narrows down what can be causing a problem. Chances are a full 60K would solve your engine problems.

Rick