might be time to let the SHO go?

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My 2013 PP hit me with a big set of repairs and it might push me to unload it unfixed :-/

Timing chain et al, water pump, and power steering.

I have been chasing an audio issue (replaced the radio and DSP to no avail)

It has 93K miles and I can't justify a 5-figure repair bill on this right? (in CA)

I have been trying to get estimates from the 3 reputable shops near me and they seem very uninterested in doing the work, so its at the dealer right now.
 

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My 2013 PP hit me with a big set of repairs and it might push me to unload it unfixed :-/

Timing chain et al, water pump, and power steering.

I have been chasing an audio issue (replaced the radio and DSP to no avail)

It has 93K miles and I can't justify a 5-figure repair bill on this right? (in CA)

I have been trying to get estimates from the 3 reputable shops near me and they seem very uninterested in doing the work, so its at the dealer right now.

You should be able to get the timing chain, water pump, and power steering (OEM Ford parts and reputable labor) for $4-5,000. I've replaced them all. Stay away from stealerships and any big chain places. Hopefully you can find a local place that knows Fords.

What stereo issue do you have?

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I agree with Joshw0000. You should be able to get this done by a local shop without using the dealership. I had a time crunch so I had mine done at the dealership in 2021 to the tune of a much larger bill.
 

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check yelp and repairpal.com for leads on good shops.

idk what cali is like these days, or ny ... both seem to have gone the highend route on costs lowend on quality.

upgrade to sync3 for the longterm, idk if sync4 would be compatible

some audio system issues can be resolved by replacing the fcim, idk how common that is on the taurus platform.
 

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The audio issue is that I cant play any multimedia sound. No radio, sirius, USB, Bluetooth.

I had that happen and went to Sync 3 and it persisted.

With android auto I get google nav directions. but no music will play. oddly enough I get sound if I leave Insta up running reels, sometimes, not all the time.

So I replaced the Sony DSP in the trunk. No change. Replaced the stereo below the APIM, no change. I get random speaker not connected error codes in forscan.


Two shops wont even actually quote me. The other was 5500ish for the timing chain.

They all seem to be 150-200/hr labor, FWIW. This is the Bay Area and its not remotely affordable
 

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The audio issue is that I cant play any multimedia sound. No radio, sirius, USB, Bluetooth.

I had that happen and went to Sync 3 and it persisted.

With android auto I get google nav directions. but no music will play. oddly enough I get sound if I leave Insta up running reels, sometimes, not all the time.

So I replaced the Sony DSP in the trunk. No change. Replaced the stereo below the APIM, no change. I get random speaker not connected error codes in forscan.


Two shops wont even actually quote me. The other was 5500ish for the timing chain.
This might sound odd, but have you tried rebooting it? My Sync 1 does the same thing from time to time. I installed an update that enabled a reboot option so now when it happens I can reboot it and it's fine. It's like it gets confused about the connection.

Maybe try posting on your FB for advice. When my water pump started weeping, I went to my usual guy and he said he couldn't do it. I posted on FB and a friend gave me the info for a place I'd never been before. I think I paid around $1500 for the water pump and timing chain. And later spend $2500 on the power steering with the same guy.

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My 2013 PP hit me with a big set of repairs and it might push me to unload it unfixed :-/

Timing chain et al, water pump, and power steering.

I have been chasing an audio issue (replaced the radio and DSP to no avail)

It has 93K miles and I can't justify a 5-figure repair bill on this right? (in CA)

I have been trying to get estimates from the 3 reputable shops near me and they seem very uninterested in doing the work, so its at the dealer right now.
My ‘13 started to nickel & dime me about 100,000 miles. It was the only sedan I completely fell in love with. The lack of experienced auto shops near me was the main reason for trading her in for a ‘16 SHO. Her name is Plain Jane.
I hope you find someone who will fix her at a reasonable price.
 

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Btw sometimes if you just unhook the battery for a hour for a full rest will do it.
 

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Second quote came back after pestering. 9500. Barf. 2 years of payments on a New car isn't the optimum repair bill on something I expect to need more money soon (suspension is due up soon, ptu/transmission fluid)
 

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Second quote came back after pestering. 9500. Barf. 2 years of payments on a New car isn't the optimum repair bill on something I expect to need more money soon (suspension is due up soon, ptu/transmission fluid)
I would see how much Carvana would give you for it. Since it only has 93k miles you might be surprised.
 

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Second quote came back after pestering. 9500. Barf. 2 years of payments on a New car isn't the optimum repair bill on something I expect to need more money soon (suspension is due up soon, ptu/transmission fluid)
Wow! That's a ton of money. At that price, it might be worth shipping the car to someone out of state to fix.

However, I do understand the need to get out of the car if it is headed down this path... but you may end up in the same situation with another vehicle. As my car has been paid off for so long and has nearly 200K miles, I'll dump money into it once a year for maintenance. (2021 was the timing chain/water pump/PTU and rebuilt transmission, 2022 was the complete suspension/hubs/driveshafts, 2023 was routine maintenance, and 2024 is showing an oil leak likely tied to a turbo oil line.)
 
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Im less than a year into my 6 year payment plan on my 13, I am in love with the car but have already done more repairs than I expected for a car I'm making a payment on. I like @LilCop2002 idea of taking it out of state, but the transport bill might make up the difference in any savings. from what ive seen once you have the chains and water pump done youre in the clear for at least another 100k-150k miles, I'd keep hunting for a shop thats willing to work with you, maybe work out a payment plan
 

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Wow! That's a ton of money. At that price, it might be worth shipping the car to someone out of state to fix.

However, I do understand the need to get out of the car if it is headed down this path... but you may end up in the same situation with another vehicle. As my car has been paid off for so long and has nearly 200K miles, I'll dump money into it once a year for maintenance. (2021 was the timing chain/water pump/PTU and rebuilt transmission, 2022 was the complete suspension/hubs/driveshafts, 2023 was routine maintenance, and 2024 is showing an oil leak likely tied to a turbo oil line.)
yeah I would only move to on to something new or fresh off leash so its under warranty.

My wifes van is a 2014 with 60k miles and it just took a 1200 alternator job. Seems like with 2 older vehicles Im dropping a couple Gs a year on maintenance anyways.
 

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Its on original suspension still so thats looming, but atleast I did brakes last year.

I would toss the sync 2 apim and screen back in, and flash tune to stock before unloading it so atleast I could offload that stuff cheap and recover a lil cash
 

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Second quote came back after pestering. 9500. Barf. 2 years of payments on a New car isn't the optimum repair bill on something I expect to need more money soon (suspension is due up soon, ptu/transmission fluid)
I have the same year, just replaced the internals like you need. Huge bill, now my A/C stopped working. And the Sync 2 is shit. Build quality is lacking on these.
Will probably unload it soon but just bought Gearhead 3 turbos so kinda torn.
 

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My 2013 PP hit me with a big set of repairs and it might push me to unload it unfixed :-/

Timing chain et al, water pump, and power steering.

I have been chasing an audio issue (replaced the radio and DSP to no avail)

It has 93K miles and I can't justify a 5-figure repair bill on this right? (in CA)

I have been trying to get estimates from the 3 reputable shops near me and they seem very uninterested in doing the work, so its at the dealer right now.
The timing chains and water pump replacement is easy, if you can do brakes and tuneup you can do it, plenty of videos on YouTube to assist. First time it’s a weekend job, ive done a dozen of them now it’s a walk in the park. Don’t even have to remove the engine to do it like the dealer recommends.
 
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The timing chains and water pump replacement is easy, if you can do brakes and tuneup you can do it, plenty of videos on YouTube to assist. First time it’s a weekend job, ive done a dozen of them now it’s a walk in the park. Don’t even have to remove the engine to do it like the dealer recommends.
just pointing out that youre both in california
 

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My 2013 PP hit me with a big set of repairs and it might push me to unload it unfixed :-/

Timing chain et al, water pump, and power steering.

I have been chasing an audio issue (replaced the radio and DSP to no avail)

It has 93K miles and I can't justify a 5-figure repair bill on this right? (in CA)

I have been trying to get estimates from the 3 reputable shops near me and they seem very uninterested in doing the work, so its at the dealer right now
Where in CA are you?
 
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