mid-gear torque lost?

[NotoriusCSR]

couldnt really think of a title that explained the problem...

heres the problem, when im say, sitting in 3nd at about 3K and i floor it my revs go up, but my speed stays the same. ive been getting to like 5500 before i even gain a single MPH. once it gains a few MPH itll change gears (atx) and then it starts pullin like mad, but why the delay when i floor it? its almost like something is "spooling" up like a turbo might cept its not turbo. i hear the secondaries opening but dont notice any change in speed jsut the RPMs gain faster till 5500 or so when it finally gets up and goes. is something wrong or is it just taking time for momentum to gain and start going?

 

[slosho]

Welcome to the wonderful world of transmission slippage! "Cleo say, rebeeld time!"

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95' ATX Opal Frost
Cone Filter W/ heat shield
TB coolant Bypass
Bypassed a "PCV" line
Fog light mod
Reverse light mod
Sony head unit (el cheapo cdx-650)
JL Monoblock 500
JL 2-12w3's
Rear tint
More to come.

 

[NotoriusCSR]

damn... not what i wanted to hear. i guess it explains the jolt into 3rd and my 8 something 0-60 though.

what needs to be done?
where can i get it done?
how much?

 

[slosho]

Transmission specialist. Expect to shell out a couple grand. Sorry dude. I'm guessing your whole tranny is going to have to be rebuilt.

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95' ATX Opal Frost
Cone Filter W/ heat shield
TB coolant Bypass
Bypassed a "PCV" line
Fog light mod
Reverse light mod
Sony head unit (el cheapo cdx-650)
JL Monoblock 500
JL 2-12w3's
Rear tint
More to come.

 

[NotoriusCSR]

well as long as it runs ill let it slip till i get money. just bought a suspension and a half (part of it got stolen so had to re-buy) so ive got like no money to spend being 17 years old.

but if ur a transmission specialist are there different types of trannys i could buy? like a ford rebuild, a jasper i just saw mentioned in a different post? anything?

 

[jthomas68]

There isn`t going to be any cheap way out of it.You might make it a few more weeks,but it`ll keep getting worse.

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Jeremy Thomas
Modified 91+
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[drivinhard]

"what needs to be done?"

Sell it. Buy an MTX.

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White 92
SR71SHO - racer '89

 

[jthomas68]

You big meanie!

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Jeremy Thomas
Modified 91+
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[Mikeys_Taurus]

Have you run your codes? My buddies 95 ATX did the exact same thing... It turned out to be a bad MAF, and oxygen sensors... In fact we said the same thing about the spooling feeling.

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Mike's 95 GL 3.0L V6
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Cold Air Induction, Ram Air, Dual Exhaust, Advanced Timing, SHO Rims with T Rated Firestone tires; Intake Spacer, K&N Panel Filter; 24 & 26mm swaybars; Backlit Taurus Logo; Auto dimming mirror; SHO Leather Interior; SHO 140mph Instrument Cluster.
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Soon To Come:
Struts & Springs; Upper & Lower Intake Porting & Polishing; Head Porting; Performance Cam, 24lb Fuel Injectors, 1/2 fuel lines, 2500RPM Torque Converter; Hayden 24K Trans Cooler; Trans Go Shift Kit; Diablo Sport Chip.

 

[NotoriusCSR]

i wouldnt be surprised to find out it is the maf, last time i took it in the shop totally ****** everything up while doing the 60K. brakes were messed, intake was messed, the CE light was permanently on, gas mileage dropped about 100 miles per tank... i thouhgt i got everything fixed cept the gas mileage, but oh well. hopefully it is the MAF

cause i want a reason to buy an 80mm one and LPM

 

[NotoriusCSR]

and drivinhard, my summer project is making it a manual anyways so i really dont want to buy a new tranny (probably wasnt going to unless i had to drive around with a max speed of 1, 2 is acceptable but i know a guy who has all the parts and tools and knowhow and time and eagerness to help me do it for 500 bucks so
plus its all rebuilt stuff so i wont need to do that crap either

 

[jthomas68]

A bad MAF wil throw a code.If the rpm`s go up,but the car doesn`t move,it must be the tranny.A MAF can`t make the tranny slip.

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Jeremy Thomas
Modified 91+
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[Cohiba]

Damn, I'm sorry. That same thing happened to me about year and half ago (About 90K miles.) If you want to try to make it last a little longer, make sure you drive VERY carefully, and try to keep the overdrive button turned OFF. This will keep it from making extra upshifts and downshifts for overdrive. One way, or the other, it will probably go out very soon, though. Start saving $$$.

The tranny project sounds cool, keep us updated, of course. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will last for you. If you really don't want to spend the cash to fix it before you remake the tranny, just go buy a POS for like a couple hundred bucks. You should be able to make a '86 VW golf or something like that last through the next few months

Good Luck!!!

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[Mikeys_Taurus]

This is what the problem was. His car had the EXACT symptoms and it was the maf. If his car is going up in RPM's but is running lean because of the MAF, then it won't move, so I wouldn't necessarily be so quick to through blmae on the tranny.

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Mike's 95 GL 3.0L V6
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Mods:
Cold Air Induction, Ram Air, Dual Exhaust, Advanced Timing, SHO Rims with T Rated Firestone tires; Intake Spacer, K&N Panel Filter; 24 & 26mm swaybars; Backlit Taurus Logo; Auto dimming mirror; SHO Leather Interior; SHO 140mph Instrument Cluster.
_____________________________________________
Soon To Come:
Struts & Springs; Upper & Lower Intake Porting & Polishing; Head Porting; Performance Cam, 24lb Fuel Injectors, 1/2 fuel lines, 2500RPM Torque Converter; Hayden 24K Trans Cooler; Trans Go Shift Kit; Diablo Sport Chip.

 

[OzzmanNT]

Hey Mikeys_Taurus,

Where did you get that Auto dimming mirror for your car and how much was it?

Looking at your list of mods you are finding more SHO parts than we are.

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1998 Burgandy SHO (Tan/Mocha leather)
K&N panel filter
Mobil 1 5W-30 Synthetic Oil
Cool Blue headlights (much brighter than stock and look much better)
OBD-II diagnostic Module (this thing is schweet)
Installing ride control switch soon
Upcoming Mods:
-Borla Exhaust (working with a local muffler shop on this)
-Paint brake capilers (or polish them)
-Colgan Bra
-SHO lettering on the doors
-Upgrade intake system
-and probally a few more as I think of them.
OzzmanNT( mailto[email protected][email protected]</A> AIM: OzzmanSHO)

 

[Mikeys_Taurus]

I ganked it from a supercoupe.

I love it! I have a group buy going on with them. $50 each I believe. I'll post some pics of my cars. - Mike