Loving these SFC's!!

[SASHO91]

Wow, they really do make a big difference. If you didnt know, i had a couple of pieces of box tubing laying around. I made my own SFC's out of these. I had beem working on getting them ready, and today i finally put them in. I had to cut down a little bit but still the difference is great. I only bolted them up as for right now, but i am planing on going to get them welded so no uh oh's can happen.
So i took the car out after i got done with it. I was trying to break the rear free to see how far it could go. But i couldnt push her that hard. Now, the rear dosent lag around turns, it follows the front very well. I think once i get them welded in i can really let her loose.
But yeah if you want a tight car, think into some SFC's.
Next up for me is the Rear STB, and then some ALSFB's.
This car keeps on getting funner to drive!!

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Weird, I made mine last night

I snagged a BUNCH of steel stock (angle iron, box and square tubing, etc) from the local steel salvage yard a week ago. And with my new welder, Im going fabrication happy

Welding them up this weekend

 

[PROPHET]

Definately a great bang for buck modification.

 

[SASHO91]

yeah considering all im going to have to pay for is the welding!
what does that normally run, froma local exhaust shop? im guessing around 20 or 30. im going to have the bolts and the welds, they arent goin no were!
I was coming home a minute ago, and there is a turn that is nice long and smooth. The fastest that i could get before aroung the turn, was 90 maybe 95. Now i can do 105 around it, with a little tire squeal. But wow they are fun. probably took me 3 hrs, but that includes fabbing them to size, then drilling holes on the tubing, and on the frame in the front. i lucked out in the back, the bolts were the exact size for the hole and fit perfectly.
if you can get a hold of this material, it is deffinetly worth it!!!

 

[SASHO91]

I know this is gonna sound real ghetto, but, as a temporary solution, could i use JB weld to help hold it in place. I mean they have not moved at all, but i still cant get enough of the twisties!! my funding is short for the welding, and i have had good luck with the JB weld. This is only a temporary solution, just a precaution really, till i have the funds to go get them welded up.Any suggestions?

 

[SASHO91]

I know it sounds cheap, but i dont want them to twist off. I cant get enough of the twisties.
On the way home, i was going back through some of the back streets, Non-residential area, doing about 70. There is a turn coming up posted a 40. Im like ok time for a bigger test. Droped it to 3rd, both hands on the wheel, and turned in. A little tire squeal, little body roll, and perferct apex of the turn. i wass so impressed by them. To bad there was a deer on the other side of the turn, he didnt even see me coming. I think he left a pile in the road. Just barley missed him. But i did apex the turn very good though
Figured i share that intresting story. Also anyone have a method of cleaning sh** off of leather!!

 

[SASHO91]

Also, a side note, i just finished my custom H-brace install. i dought it really did anything considering i dont have tubular control arms, but i guess it is just a piece of mind so that nothing gets too twisted back there. And i was bored out of my mind so...
any questions about the install or what used, fire away!

 

[SASHO91]

Wow i just now noticed that i posted in the wrong section! didnt catch that when i was posting it. Sorry guys!

 

[SASHO91]

ok i see how it is guys...
i'll remeber that...











J/K, but for real.... no one cares or what?
Im all alone.....
**curls up in corner-sucks thumb**

 

[Off Road SHO]

I hear you Josh. Ditch the JB weld idea, just take it easy on the corners until you can get them welded. And take it to a real welding shop/ fabrication shop. They will know what heat range and wire feed speed will work best for your situation (thin and thick). You can save yourself some money by doing the prep work ahead of time.

The welder will need to do 1-1.5" beads along both sides of each runner. You don't know where exactly he is going to place those beads so you will have to clean the entire area very well, I mean down to bare metal. On the car and on your brace.

Since you have them bolted up right now, an easy way to mark where you need to sand down the metal in preparation for welding is to use a fat felt tipped marker and draw an outline around your entire brace where it meets the cars subframe rib. That way, when you un-bolt it you'll see the "contact" area that will need to be sanded clean. Sand off the felt tip marking plus about 1/4" on either side of it.

Good luck and remember, If it's worth doing, it's worth doing it right.


Tom

 

[SASHO91]

Thanks tom, I wasnt to sure about the JB weld idea, Nor did i think it was gonna hold to long. i will take it easy on the turns for a while though. Also i had another idea last night, I have an extra piece of metal, a 5/8 piece of tubing, powdercoated already.
Would it help out anything if i were to mount that across to each SFC? Kinda like this /-\ .Since the SFC's are not full length, i want to help them out as much as i can. Will that be any help to them, or will it just be a waste of time? If no one has done thiss i will try it to see if it will help, just somthing else to do. Im bored out of my mined!

 

[40BelowSummer]

Tell me about this H-Brace. I need a small project for my welding/fabrication class.

 

[SASHO91]

Ok first off, youll need a 5/8'' or 1/2'' pipe, i used 5/8'', which mine was powerdcoated already. I cut 2-7'' pieces, and with a torch, make the ends of the pipe flat by heating them up and hitting with hammer. Do it to about an1'' of pipe on both 7'' piesces. Then, drill holes were the flat places are, making sure thatthey are big enough to fir the bolts on the Frame box, the ones inside the box. Then get the right nuts for the bolts down there, i dont remeber what they are sorry, then mount the 2 pieces from each bolt, not parralel to the car but perpindicular. Onec they are in, get the 2-5" pieces, do the same with them, flatten them out on ends. Now this part is up to you, i used self tappind screws, but you could weld it though. I drilled a pilot hole to get the screws started on both of them.
then i mocked them up to the braces on the car already, and found out were to drill holes to get the screws to go in easier. Drilled the holes for the screws, using just a small bit. Once the holes are drilled, screw in the screws to the pieces already in there. i spaced the 5" pieces about 2" apart, and centered them, did this before drilling the holes of course.
And wola, got a custom tubular H-Brace. May not do anything, but hey, it was fun making it though! Have a good piece of mind now as well.
There ya go!
Good luck!

 

[SHOpride]

Do you have any pix? Thanx!

 

[nc89sho]

any pics of how you bolted them on, i'm having trouble picturing how you bolted them to the body in the front..

 

[SASHO91]

I take it that you mean the SFC's right?
I can take pics but i dont have my cam with me...
But what i did was marked were the hole was for the SFC and then drilled. i put a bolt in through the opening in the frame, and held it there until i got it threaded. i then tightened the nut down as far as i could, then i tightened the bolt, while holding the nut with a wrench i tighten it down..
So far they are holding very very well.
And i have done some nice cornering in them as well. and no flex at all..

 

[MI-SHOFEAR]

any pics of how you bolted them on, i'm having trouble picturing how you bolted them to the body in the front..

This is from SHOTimes FAQ
http://www.shotimes.com/php-bin/mod...e=article&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0&sid=185

Jeff

 

[SASHO91]

now that i have my own hosting site, i will get picks up asap!
a couple of the SFC's and one of the H-brace...

 

[masho95]

Make sure they are welded up there with the suspension compressed. As if the SHO were sitting on the pavement. (Drive on lift)
Otherwise the body could be tweaked when welded on and it'll stay like that.

 

[MI-SHOFEAR]

But what if it just pre-loads it. Like semi trailers. they are built preloaded so when a load(weight) is placed on them they become level???/
Jeff