Fishrising
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How about a Corsa exhaust for the Flex EB?
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How about a Corsa exhaust for the Flex EB?
LMSRick
Livernois
Ben,
I spoke to Paul at Corsa and he said they looked at a Flex to see if the exhaust was similar to the SHO, but quickly determined it wasn't and decided not to pursue a Flex system.
If they offered one, we would have it on our Flex. We run their products on all of our shop vehicles.
Thank you,
Rick
Good to know, Rick...given the testimonials here, I imagine it's the route I'll take.
But you really, really, really need to update your web site, which doesn't mention the package you describe and still shows each tune as a separate part number.
(BTW, you still owe me a windshield sticker...)
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TaurusBuilder
I built it
If u give me your vin number, I can tell u if we hav even started on it
TaurusBuilder
I built it
Lol. We have 2 shifts working 11hrs each, 6 days a week. Were goin as fast as we can. But if I'm correct, were building 70 percent Explorer's rite now. We only build like 3 SHO's an hr. Thank your wife for gettin rid of the Camry for me.
EcoBrick Bob
SHO Member
The exhaust on the Flex is the same for about the first 4 feet after the flanges. Because the Flex has a 5" longer wheelbase and a shorter tail, the rest is similar, but modified for the differences. The solution to the Flex exhaust dilemma is to add Magnaflow mufflers in back and to replace the 3rd cat and the resonator with an x-pipe.
NESHO is in the process of making a template (jig) to easily manufacture the section including an x-pipe back about 44" from the flanges behind the main cats. It will be completed shortly. I asked for a second set of flanges behind the stock resonator, so I could swap out the stock section for the modded x-pipe, and then put it back if noise was an issue on long trips etc. I currently have Magnaflows on the back (have had for 10 mo and 16+K) and the sound is about like a V-6 Mustang... Just loud enough you know there is an engine in the car.... MUCH quieter than the Magnaflow street system on my G8 GT.
But.... Not expecting any real HP improvements. From what I have heard, our exhaust restrictions are just after the Turbos, including the piping around the 2 main cats.
Mostly would like a bit more rumble! Will have a local muffler shop install.
I paid a bit over $300. for the rear satin stainless Magnaflow mufflers installed with stock tips. The NESHO x-pipe mid section should cost between $300 & $400. installed. Since he is building this primarily for SHO's, many of you may be interested!:thankyou:
NESHO is in the process of making a template (jig) to easily manufacture the section including an x-pipe back about 44" from the flanges behind the main cats. It will be completed shortly. I asked for a second set of flanges behind the stock resonator, so I could swap out the stock section for the modded x-pipe, and then put it back if noise was an issue on long trips etc. I currently have Magnaflows on the back (have had for 10 mo and 16+K) and the sound is about like a V-6 Mustang... Just loud enough you know there is an engine in the car.... MUCH quieter than the Magnaflow street system on my G8 GT.
But.... Not expecting any real HP improvements. From what I have heard, our exhaust restrictions are just after the Turbos, including the piping around the 2 main cats.
Mostly would like a bit more rumble! Will have a local muffler shop install.
I paid a bit over $300. for the rear satin stainless Magnaflow mufflers installed with stock tips. The NESHO x-pipe mid section should cost between $300 & $400. installed. Since he is building this primarily for SHO's, many of you may be interested!:thankyou:
LMSRick
Livernois
We're in the process of building a new site now. I know the old site is difficult to navigate and doesn't have near the amount of product we would like.
I believe I spoke to you via email regardng the windshield banner. If so, I sent a note to he guys in shipping to send you one. Please send mea pm or email in the morning to remind me and I'll look into it.
Thank you,
Rick
RavensFan79
New Member
Don't go too fast. Need to keep that quality control high!
79turboghia
New Member
I hope I didn't offend you, I personally could have waited longer for such a fine ride. I told her thanks for you, she laughed. I wouldn't have anything but a Ford, just raised that way I guess.
Showgun
Canuck SHO
.TaurusBuilder said:
I remember your offer of some pics too, bro and am patiently waiting for even that number.
As soon as they send it to me I'll pm you with it.
See if you can talk those guys on the line to change back to Tauruses. lol.
Cheers,
Colin.
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LMSRick
Livernois
Mike,
You were one of the earlier customers and we appreciate all of the kind words that our customers post regarding our tunes.
Darreli was our first SHO customer and his car was originlly tuned on the street with a wideband. We had a SHO on order at the time, but hadn't seen any before his. He was nice enough to let us develop our first tune using his car. We then called him when we had any updates and again he would experiment and provide us with feeback after driving and racing the car.
After our car arrived, we installed an AWD dyno which proved to help greatly and allow us to further develop our custom tunes.
Our roots in the automotive world stretches back over 65 years. Back then our Company (or parent company) was known as Livernois Engineering. We were always deeply tied with the OEM companies as we did numerous testing, and design aspects for them. We even created the first aluminum radiator for automotive usage and the tooling and machines to produce them. Over time the company continued to grow, and venture into new facets of the automotive industry. Eventually the heat exchange division was sold to a large well known heating and cooling company, and the company was passed on to the children of the company founder. The current owner, Norma Wallis then bought out her siblings to take full ownership and started several other companies under the Livernois name. One of these companies, Livernois Vehicle Development was in charge of many different projects for the OEM's. From crash testing, to diesel system integration, alternative fuels, and more... they did it all. Livernois Motorsports, as with many performance companies, started as a hobby business that was spun off of LVD.
Livernois Motorsports is owned by Norma's sons Dan and Tom Millen. Today we are a supplier to GM, Ford, and Chrysler through the OEM level and the performance parts business.
We are extremely unique in the industry as we have over 15 install bays and hoists, 2 chassis dynos (including one of Michigan's only AWD and portable dyno's) and an in-house engine dyno. All development and machining is done in house. We have multiple CNC machines, cylinder head flow benches, a full service machine shop, and fab shop all housed within our 36,000 sq. ft. facility. We also have paint and body housed in its own stand alone building.
All of our tuning is done exclusively by Dan Millen, multi-time national champion in numerous racing classes. So, to put it lightly the tuning and driving characteristics are handled by someone who has the most vested interest possible so quality is of the utmost importance.
The following video link will give you a quick overview of Livernois Motorsports and our capabilities - [YOUTUBE]vmdiif-_hAE[/YOUTUBE]
Thank you,
Rick
Showgun
Canuck SHO
Rick, any connection between Stillen and Livernois? -- I see the Millen name.
Thanks for the company history. Nice to see that LMS works closely with Ford.
Colin.
Thanks for the company history. Nice to see that LMS works closely with Ford.
Colin.
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LMSRick
Livernois
LMSRick
Livernois
Much of the work done at Livernois Vehicle development cannot be seen by the public, but here is an album containing several images. Click here
and a few projects....
Armored Escalade for a person of Royalty overseas
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SWAT vehicle
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Military Vehicles
and a Livernois Motorsports album here
-Rick
Showgun
Canuck SHO
Cool stuff Rick......love that Escalade. -- Bond would be proud., and that SWAT team would be enough to shake you up should they come a-knockin'....
That military vehicle would be handy -- we've got some bad tailgaters around here that really **** one off.
I can well see why Ford has such a close relationship with you guys.....Kudos
That military vehicle would be handy -- we've got some bad tailgaters around here that really **** one off.
I can well see why Ford has such a close relationship with you guys.....Kudos
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EcoBrick Bob
SHO Member
#1. NESHO - Kirk (alive and well!)
I pm'd him several times. Finally got a response and then took a bunch of underside pix of EB Flex for him.
That is where we came to the conclusion that the exhausts are similar, and the same to just behind the resonator.
Actually phoned him about a week ago at his request. He seems to have other projects going on... but also wants to get back on the new SHO bandwagon. Will be getting the center x-pipe section for my Brick whenever it gets made.
As I have catsback systems (Magnaflow street system - 09' & custom setup w/ h-pipe & Magnaflows - 08')on my G8's, I would have bought one for my Flex, had they been available. Going at it piecemeal. Hoping for some extra horsies, but not expecting anything except "Noise Fluff"!
Lucky to have an understanding wife... whose hearing is fine.. but would rather listen to a loud engine/exhaust, than loud music!
#2..... Rick ....
Loved your history of Livernois. Happened to see the clip that was done by a Detroit TV station a year or 2 ago. The performance division is only a small portion of all the things you do... Speaks well of your automotive reputation! Hope to show up for a tour (of what is open to the public) some day.....
#3. Ain't this SHO board getting fun!!!!!!!
Great group of poster friends.....:thankyou::thankyou:
Blackwire1217
New Member
I got my tunes today and all I can say is 
WOW!! What a difference a tune makes on the SHO. I went straight to the stage 4 tune and it is awesome.
Thank you Rick for the great customer service and awesome product. :thankyou:
WOW!! What a difference a tune makes on the SHO. I went straight to the stage 4 tune and it is awesome.Thank you Rick for the great customer service and awesome product. :thankyou:
LMSRick
Livernois
I got my tunes today and all I can say is
Thank you Rick for the great customer service and awesome product. :thankyou:
Thanks for the kind words! :thankyou:
-Rick
LMSRick
Livernois
The has 4 has more boost and more timing than the others, and no torque management. Our tuner Dan said he would recommend higher octane with the stage 4, however Darreli and several others are running it daily with 93 octane and no issues.
Thank you,
Rick
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