How should I tune my mystery build? (with photos)

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meSHOhorny420

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Quick background: I own a mystery build former track car 89 SHO. The guy who sold me the car didn't seem very knowledgeable about cars. His brother-in-law originally built the car, and sold it to him when he retired from mechanic work. The seller told me it has cams, pistons, rods, etc., but I of course can't verify these claims unless I tear into the engine. I can only take his claims at face value. I might try reaching out to the seller and asking if his brother-in-law would have any interest in chatting over the phone about his past build.

Where I'm currently at: I recently brought the car to a true old school auto electric diag wizard, and he decided to investigate the rough idle.

The tech note states: "The technician advanced to level #2 testing and he first hooked up the scanner and he checked for codes and there were lean codes present. The tech then hooked up the smoke machine and he checked for vacuum leaks and there are no major vacuum leaks. The tech then hooked up the fuel pressure tester and he tested fuel pressure and the fuel pressure was good. The tech then hooked up the MPSI Breakout Box and he checked all the inputs and outputs and they look good at this time. The tech also inspected the ECM and he noted it has corrosion and shows signs of internal damage." ECM is going to be replaced and then it'll be retested.

When he pulled out the ECM, this AutoLogic chip was present, but not actually connected to the J3 port. He connected the chip, and it ran way worse. So ECM will be replaced and the chip will stay off.

Guidance I'm currently seeking: Once I get my car back from the mechanic, I'm unsure of my next steps. The car runs okay enough, but I worry that I'm squandering the car's potential performance without a custom tune. I'm assuming that at a minimum, I would need to identify the cams and fuel injectors before I can even think about a tune?

And then say I hypothetically do get some of this stuff identified, I'm assuming this AutoLogic is obsolete in 2026, and I'd have to buy something different like QuarterHorse? I'd be willing to pay for a dyno tune, but I don't see anyone in the Pacific northwest offering EEC-IV tuning services. Any suggestions on what I direction i should consider? Just going to run the stock MAF and computer for now.
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I would look into tweecer with oem pcm and locating a tuner. You can go Quarterhorse but that might run a little more to get everything together. Contact shosource and see if they can recommend a tuner. They are Pac NW based in WA and have been around these cars for a long time. They sell Tweecer on the site. Always contact to make sure it is available. They are a good source for parts. You really need to know if those are original pistons, cams, injectors etc

That eprom chip in the back port was a common tuning tool back in the day. You can still use one
 

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I suggest checking with Mike at Shosource to see if he might know about this car. Is this car originally from thea Northwest?
 
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Is it a rough idle or choppy idle? If the car does indeed have modified cams it will have a noticeable different idle with possible surging.

The chip that you have is an LPM and SHOSource used to be able to tune them. I would keep it out for now and put a stock MAF on.

My suggestion for tuning is Quarterhorse and deal with Adam Marrer with Pops Racing. He's who you would need to get the Quarterhorse from and he can remote tune the car for you. He's the one that tuned my SC SHO and I highly recommend him. He's been tuning SHOs for a very long time. You can find him in the FB groups.

-Chad
 

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It lived most of its life in San Rafael, California. Built by a guy named Michael who owned a shop called North Bay Motorsports.
Maybe Nick might have heard about this car. Maybe you can post a video of the car idle, I remember hearing Kurt Gutza car that had a lopey idle. I think Toolman now owns that car
 

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Is it a rough idle or choppy idle?
It could be described as rough and bouncy. It doesn't have that distinct "lopey" big cam sound that's typically associated with big V8 engines.
My suggestion for tuning is Quarterhorse and deal with Adam Marrer with Pops Racing. He's who you would need to get the Quarterhorse from and he can remote tune the car for you. He's the one that tuned my SC SHO and I highly recommend him. He's been tuning SHOs for a very long time. You can find him in the FB groups.

-Chad
Appreciate your insight Chad!
Maybe Nick might have heard about this car. Maybe you can post a video of the car idle
I'll take a video when it's back from the shop. Currently waiting for the replacement ECM.
 

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Agree if you have an aftermarket MAF it will run poorly for the most part and with aftermarket cams even more pronounced. Replacing with oem MAF is a good idea. You really need to know what parts are in there. This is the issue with buying a project- completed or not- without getting relevant info needed to own or fix. I mean SHOnut Performance used to offer like 4 different profile cams back in the day.
I would push to get the original owner to give details. I'd hate to pull things apart if I didn't have to. I hope this comes together quickly for you.
 

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