I will have two 95 SHOs. One auto, one straight stick.

[Larry Wittmer]

Can I put the straight stick trans in the auto body?? The auto body is in much better condition. I don't know if there are hangers for the clutch peddle. and other hardware. I am getting the auto body tomarrow, if possible.
My stick shift body is rough inside and out, but it runs great.

 

[sperold]

You do not have any hangers for the clutch pedal and you will have to install that from the standard tranny car.

What you have suggested can be done, but it is a really big job.
You need to change the sub-frame.
There are lots of electrical issues.
There are threads on this forum that detail how to do it.

I would learn to love the automatic, or look for bodywork / paint on the manual transmission car.

 

[rubydist]

Conceptually, you need the engine/trans/subframe and all the engine wiring (including pcm), hoses and a/c lines, and the dash wiring to swap from one to the other. You also need the mtx exhaust system moved to the other car. So, its easy, only two sentences tell you all you need to do! Execution of that concept is about 30 hours plus however much time you spend on scratching your head and beating on rusted stuff.

 

[Larry Wittmer]

Thanks' That's the kind of info I was looking for. I was wandering about the electrical, Thats what I ran into when asking about changing engines in my Subaru to a turbo, and the machanic said too much electronic problems. I guess the good old days are long gone. I have put chevys into fords big chevys into little chevys and jammed a 426 Hemi into a 1950 merc, back when all you had to do was hook up an ignition wire and starter relay : Larry

 

[yamahaSHO]

So... Is there a non-straight stick SHO? Curved, maybe? Bit of an angle?

 

[Devin]

Thanks' That's the kind of info I was looking for. I was wandering about the electrical, Thats what I ran into when asking about changing engines in my Subaru to a turbo, and the machanic said too much electronic problems. I guess the good old days are long gone. I have put chevys into fords big chevys into little chevys and jammed a 426 Hemi into a 1950 merc, back when all you had to do was hook up an ignition wire and starter relay : Larry

Bah, you don't need any of that electronics crap. Where is that engine that has the quad carb on a custom intake? That thing was a price of ugly, but fast.

 

[Larry Wittmer]

OK, How about this. I just read some history on the 3.0 and 3.2, and found that the cam is wilder in the 3.o. It said that switching cams would make the 3.2 run a whole lot stronger. since I have both, why not switch the heads rather then just the cams? looks like that would be the way to go. the artical said it would rase the torque and horsepower. will there be any darn computer problems involved? I think the valve covers need to be resealed on both engines anyway, so it 's not much futher on to the heads. What feed back can you guys offer on this performance upgrade? At 79, I don't think the weight of the aluminum componants would be too much to handle. : Larry

 

[rubydist]

I think you should do some more research Larry.

The cam in the 3.0 (intake only) is different from the 3.2. The 3.2 needs a different cam timing and lift to provide more lower rpm torque, which is required for the auto tranny vehicle to respond well. So, if you put 3.0 intake cams in a 3.2 atx car, you will decrease performance. If you put 3.0 cams in a 3.2 in a mtx car, then you will indeed get more power and torque and increased performance (at the expense of somewhat diminished gas mileage).

The heads are functionally the same, but the front head is in fact different between the 3.0 and 3.2, because the alternator mounts differently on the two versions of the engine. So, the only reason to swap heads is if you want to put the 2-belt accessory drive on the 3.2 engine, or the single belt accessory drive on the 3.0. You need to be aware that doing so also requires changing the front motor mount, as that is tied into the whole front bracket which is part of how the accessories mount.

Also, head gaskets are hard to find, there appears only to be one manufacturer still making them and there have been reported failures with that brand of head gasket, so removing heads is not something to be undertaken on a whim. And while the aluminum heads are certainly lighter than iron ones, they are still heavy and getting that rear head off the engine in the car is not a trivial task.

So, swapping heads/cams for a performance improvement on a 3.2 atx car is a waste of time and money, because it will actually decrease performance.

 

[sperold]

"A whole lot stronger" may be an overstatement.
You will loose some low end torque (low end torque is a good thing as it occurs in the range you actually operate in) and gain some high end horsepower (which you probably won't experience often in regular driving).

There are no electrical issues to deal with in this kind of transplant, mechanical all the way.

Head gaskets are expensive and getting hard to buy, and the original ones hardly ever fail unless brutally overheated.

Your automatic transmission will like the original set up much better, as the performance you want is delivered at a lower rpm. The automatics are not wildly robust and are at the max in regular trim. But if taken care-of, will be reliable enough.

 

[Larry Wittmer]

Thanks' so much for the great feed back. I will just go with what I have, and just use the rusted stick shift car for parts. already need the right side seat controls. I know I will have a hard time selling the engine and trans. in this part of east TN. It's juch a good looking outfit, I hate to let it go to the local used parts lots, but I am absessive compolsive about If I am not using something, it has to go. Everything has a place and everything in it's place: Thanks again for advice: Larry

 

[sperold]

Make and exception and keep the second car till the end of the summer. Anything you need will be top dollar and will be available on your donor car right outside your door. And they are not getting any easier to find. Even the glass is getting hard to find. Any little hit and the insurance company will write your car off, and at that time it is nice to cash out with the knowledge you have the repair panels already in stock.

 

[Larry Wittmer]

Right, I already got the hood supports, headlights and one sun visor. This will add up to lots of money saved, before I get done. I can't get over how nice the body on the auto trans car is. Not a speck of rust anywhere. It must have been under cover it's whole life. The seat side bolsters are riped on both cars. Thanks' for taking time to offer advice. Larry

 

[RonPorter]

So... Is there a non-straight stick SHO? Curved, maybe? Bit of an angle?

Dunno, never knew of a *** stick SHO........