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Bronco2fan
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If it didn't say Ford on it, I'm betting 90% of the people wouldn't even know what it was. Least of all that it's a 2010 SHO. For us 10%, you're accomplishing things we didn't know were possible or had the mindset to try.
I know I've called your car/build Duke Nuke'Em a couple of times. That's just a joke and I can't wait to see what your car actually lays down in the quarter. Screw everyone else. They couldn't build anything close to what you have.
Well I called my local Ford Parts yesterday afternoon. Sometimes you can’t get a clear part number even on their site. So I found out over the phone they had a different part number for my left front axle shaft seal than I could find on my FordParts account.
I watched FordTechMakuloco replace and install a left front axle seal on a 2011 Ford Explorer. And I was on the edge of my seat to take note of the axle play if any. Well when he reinstalled the axle when he was done with the new seal he showed he could pull it in and out just a little bit to show the retaining clip…doing its job! YES!!! Ok that movement is normal! I had nothing to reference prior to this. Except measuring inside the trans and then the end of the axle.
I was excited to go to Ford and get my hands on 7T4Z-1177-D and see if it looked different than the seal I have been staring at for 3 separate attempts to get this leak to stop. And I was floored to see it looks different in a good way. The ID looks smaller and the seal itself looks to protrude out further from its base than the one I have. First impression is the wrong seal is in my transmission. Which carries both relief and doubt if maybe something else is wrong in there….but I’m certain Kevin used an aftermarket seal, maybe part of a seal kit. And if he’s not staring at 6F55’s all day I’m not sure he’d catch it. It took me a long time to come to this conclusion. It weeped a tiny bit of fluid last year.
I’m excited to change this out and be done with this leak. I will take pics of both of the seals side by side when I remove the one in there. Can’t wait. I’ll be back with an update and test drive results.
I watched FordTechMakuloco replace and install a left front axle seal on a 2011 Ford Explorer. And I was on the edge of my seat to take note of the axle play if any. Well when he reinstalled the axle when he was done with the new seal he showed he could pull it in and out just a little bit to show the retaining clip…doing its job! YES!!! Ok that movement is normal! I had nothing to reference prior to this. Except measuring inside the trans and then the end of the axle.
I was excited to go to Ford and get my hands on 7T4Z-1177-D and see if it looked different than the seal I have been staring at for 3 separate attempts to get this leak to stop. And I was floored to see it looks different in a good way. The ID looks smaller and the seal itself looks to protrude out further from its base than the one I have. First impression is the wrong seal is in my transmission. Which carries both relief and doubt if maybe something else is wrong in there….but I’m certain Kevin used an aftermarket seal, maybe part of a seal kit. And if he’s not staring at 6F55’s all day I’m not sure he’d catch it. It took me a long time to come to this conclusion. It weeped a tiny bit of fluid last year.
I’m excited to change this out and be done with this leak. I will take pics of both of the seals side by side when I remove the one in there. Can’t wait. I’ll be back with an update and test drive results.
look parts from Ford constantly evolve because of issues that arise. For all you know that part number is for 15+ model years.
Yeah for sure. I’m both annoyed by it and also amazed that I could troubleshoot it myself and determine the wrong part was in it. That idea never crossed my mind but I narrowed it down.
Well, different indeed but more so in aftermarket VS OEM. Going to have to assume higher quality in OEM just based on my previous experience never using a seal protector the couple times I removed the drive shaft before and reinstalled before I started this build.
Slightly damaged it taking it out but I guess they are near identical.
So I’m officially a mechanic now bc I used the seal protector
And then I wasn’t sure which axle to use the OG one is on the left. Looks like different lengths but one is on the ground and one is on top of the rags but they are the same lengths.
Ended up picking the OG one for nostalgia LOL!
Need to work a couple hours and I’m going to do a quick touch up alignment and take it for a test drive.
Admittedly I know Jordan and I didn’t use a seal protector when it was installed the first time. And when I had about 40 miles on it, during my trip to get an alignment with smoke coming out of my exhaust that resulted in me deciding to get it towed home, is the first time I found a drip from it. This started out as a slow slow slow drip. Forming a drip on the bottom of the trans but not on the ground. So all the times I messed with the axle thinking it was not in all the way and never using a seal protector. The drip started to drip on the ground. And this last time messing with it…turned into an active leak on the ground. To be fair if I had used a seal protector perhaps this never would have happened. And if it had been OEM perhaps it would have been higher quality to resist tearing better. Idk.
I think this is fixed. Just will verify on the test drive. What I learned is:
-seal protector isn’t a suggestion
-axle has always been in all the way.
Slightly damaged it taking it out but I guess they are near identical.
So I’m officially a mechanic now bc I used the seal protector
And then I wasn’t sure which axle to use the OG one is on the left. Looks like different lengths but one is on the ground and one is on top of the rags but they are the same lengths.
Ended up picking the OG one for nostalgia LOL!
Need to work a couple hours and I’m going to do a quick touch up alignment and take it for a test drive.
Admittedly I know Jordan and I didn’t use a seal protector when it was installed the first time. And when I had about 40 miles on it, during my trip to get an alignment with smoke coming out of my exhaust that resulted in me deciding to get it towed home, is the first time I found a drip from it. This started out as a slow slow slow drip. Forming a drip on the bottom of the trans but not on the ground. So all the times I messed with the axle thinking it was not in all the way and never using a seal protector. The drip started to drip on the ground. And this last time messing with it…turned into an active leak on the ground. To be fair if I had used a seal protector perhaps this never would have happened. And if it had been OEM perhaps it would have been higher quality to resist tearing better. Idk.
I think this is fixed. Just will verify on the test drive. What I learned is:
-seal protector isn’t a suggestion
-axle has always been in all the way.
Does the seal protector come with the OEM seal or is it a separate part number?
It came with the seal. I didn’t have one before so I’ll definitely save it. But I can look to see if it has one on it later
Like others have said, your build, your concept your self gratification.
Those of us that have been around long enough to have "built" gen 1,2 & 3s heard the same s h I t. I did did it anyway. Always had good things said about the build at Road America, Gingerman etc. once they saw the car on track.
Once that thing is broke in, go showem'!
Those of us that have been around long enough to have "built" gen 1,2 & 3s heard the same s h I t. I did did it anyway. Always had good things said about the build at Road America, Gingerman etc. once they saw the car on track.
Once that thing is broke in, go showem'!
Zpak
Es Aich Oh!
That’s the money shot right there bro. The face of a killer! Nasty AF! I love it
I had a busy weekend but managed to reset my trans fluid level and take it out for a test drive Sunday night. About 20 min of driving. Long slow route to a little stretch of highway. Got up to about 80, nothing too crazy. I purposely get the car into boost often every time I drive. Got back home and parked back in the garage. I was nervous to look but I think that’s normal. I thoroughly exhausted all aspects of this leak and was 99% confident it had to be fixed. Nonetheless that moment getting ready to actually look was a bit suspenseful.
I aired up the car high enough to easily see the bottom of the transmission when couched on the ground. No drip!!!!!!! I’ll verify on the lift today but I’m happy. So far the accumulation of issues from this new build has been
Seals: VVT solenoid seals torn from years of use and 76k of heat cycles. The seal appeared to be melted to the solenoid and ripped upon valve cover removal to get the engine built and powder coat. I installed the wrong intake manifold coolant seal twice before finding my error. Now this left front axle transmission seal.
Fittings: leaks from loose fittings and also a couple bad fittings where I did the exact same procedure to make my line and the new fittings worked where the old fitting didn’t. Or excessive heat making a fitting weep like near the turbine inlet vband which was remedied with heat management.
Turbo oil drain: my orientation wasn’t efficient and bc of that with a lower flowing scavenger pump was a big issue.
Considering I’m not a professional mechanic and I had nothing to mimic and follow I think I did pretty good so far. I didn’t do the engine or trans build so those seals were harder to identify as my problem. I’ll take it.
I aired up the car high enough to easily see the bottom of the transmission when couched on the ground. No drip!!!!!!! I’ll verify on the lift today but I’m happy. So far the accumulation of issues from this new build has been
Seals: VVT solenoid seals torn from years of use and 76k of heat cycles. The seal appeared to be melted to the solenoid and ripped upon valve cover removal to get the engine built and powder coat. I installed the wrong intake manifold coolant seal twice before finding my error. Now this left front axle transmission seal.
Fittings: leaks from loose fittings and also a couple bad fittings where I did the exact same procedure to make my line and the new fittings worked where the old fitting didn’t. Or excessive heat making a fitting weep like near the turbine inlet vband which was remedied with heat management.
Turbo oil drain: my orientation wasn’t efficient and bc of that with a lower flowing scavenger pump was a big issue.
Considering I’m not a professional mechanic and I had nothing to mimic and follow I think I did pretty good so far. I didn’t do the engine or trans build so those seals were harder to identify as my problem. I’ll take it.
I have to hand it to you, I would of not been so patient. a character flaw, but your take it slow methodical approach is paying off. a custom car will surely have custom issues to expose the potential weaknesses in parts not engineered for your custom build on top of the fact a platform with limited aftermarket performance support.
your a pioneer, this isn't a Stang.... there are like how many aftermarket companies tweaking and improving on OEM shortcomings.
keep it going.
your a pioneer, this isn't a Stang.... there are like how many aftermarket companies tweaking and improving on OEM shortcomings.
keep it going.
wingingmean
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You are truly a inspiration to our platform, I thought I was going to stop at just a tune, I am looking to going to intercooler next with E30 on my horizon.
To go faster has been on my mind every since I came across your build, So thank you, My wife on the other hand isn't to happy lol. I'm kidding she supports what
I do. Truly cant wait to see you make your passes on the track later this year.
To go faster has been on my mind every since I came across your build, So thank you, My wife on the other hand isn't to happy lol. I'm kidding she supports what
I do. Truly cant wait to see you make your passes on the track later this year.
Alignment went well.
That new axle seal actually leaked but form around the base….essentially defying all logic lmfao! So I cleaned it up and put some silicone sealant in that tiny crack. Held on the way to the alignment. If I end up buying another new seal I’ll put some gasket maker under the base, wipe it flat with my finger and install. But what a PITA.
That new axle seal actually leaked but form around the base….essentially defying all logic lmfao! So I cleaned it up and put some silicone sealant in that tiny crack. Held on the way to the alignment. If I end up buying another new seal I’ll put some gasket maker under the base, wipe it flat with my finger and install. But what a PITA.
What’s interesting is I had my car aligned at this shop in 2019 and 2020. My tech forgot to catch my mileage probably bc I drove it on and off the rack and the test drive. I went and grabbed the mileage 76,964 and they said holy shit this was only driven 700 miles since your last visit. Damn! August 30th 2020. 
I guess a lot can happen in 1k miles or less hahahaha
I guess a lot can happen in 1k miles or less hahahaha
Part number for the seal protector
AA5P-4N206-AA
wingingmean
Member
love that intercooler behind the grill
aye that will do it 
So….file those sharp edges down. Fill them in with gasket maker and wipe them flat to the surface. Let cure 12 hours Then …add some higher pressure **** to the seal…and use my new kit to press it in straight. Any other ideas?
Let’s try this again
So….file those sharp edges down. Fill them in with gasket maker and wipe them flat to the surface. Let cure 12 hours Then …add some higher pressure **** to the seal…and use my new kit to press it in straight. Any other ideas?
Let’s try this again
gnarly, no pun
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