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Jeez, warn me if you're gonna send arousing photos while I'm working.

Okay, tried ether again today. Still no start, no change in engine behavior, but did get some flames out the throttle.
 

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Jeez, warn me if you're gonna send arousing photos while I'm working.

Okay, tried ether again today. Still no start, no change in engine behavior, but did get some flames out the throttle.
That sounds like the engine is out of time - spark happening but the intake valves are still open.

Or you sprayed starter fluid in there?
 

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So what would cause it to be out of time? I triple checked the timing marks on all three sprockets, and yes, I did pull the balancer and check the actual inner sprocket marks just incase the balancer has sifted (it has not). I havn't messed with the CKS during this, and the CPS can only go on one way. Still had a DIS tester at work and it passed multiple times.
 

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I'm gonna have to start from the very beginning. I'll read thru all of the post up till now and then be back with some questions. I don't know exactly what you've done up to this point but obviously something is not connected or installed wrong. Stand by.

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To me it sounds like you have the timing off. I would remove the crank damper and pull the upper and lower timing covers and verify the the belt is installed correctly(lettering upside down when read from the passenger side) and that the timing marks on cams and crank line up properly. I would remove the belt and start fresh. Post back what you find.

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It's possible that you have the cam sensor vane installed in the wrong position too. When the cams are set at the timing marks on the rear timing cover the cam sensor vane should be on the lower side.

When you reinstalled the cams did you pay attention to the timing marks on the chain to make sure you timed the intake and exhaust cams together properly?

-Chad
 

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Yup, all the timing marks still align. And yes, paid extra etra super atention when putting the cams in, aligning the dots with the light colored chain links. I would call the sensor vane more left than lower. Is it even possible to put that on wrong? Arn't the screw holes slightly offset?
 

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Hmm, didn't think about pulling the SPOUT connectors until just now. (okay, like, 2 weeks ago but I got distracted). The sticker under the hood warns to do this with the engine warm, but will being cold skew my results any? And to be clear, I want the center/white notch to be 10 degrees advance when the number 1 plug fires, right?
 

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You want to pull the timing covers and verify the crank and cam sprockets are timed together like they should be. I would have done this weeks ago.
 

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OK, if you know for a fact that the crank and cam sprockets were timing correctly and you know for a fact that the intake and exhaust cams are timed together correctly then you can rule out timing. If the car ran before you tore it down then you have something disconnected/unhooked or just by coincidence something has failed. DIS, PCM, etc.. Have you tried a different PCM. When you blow a capacitor it will give a no start condition.

-Chad
 

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This reminds me of cars that I have seen that looked in time and were 180 degrees out of time. That's not a scientific diagnostic but something that has occurred several times on the forum. I get the frustration. I have given away cars for less than this
 

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Checked again, still in time, but I just pulled the crossmember after another several second run. There was smoke commming out the intake. Like, slow, steam like smoke. Smells like gas.
 

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Yes, 1 mark each for the cam sprokets, and two separate marks for 3.0L and 3.2L at the crank. Bottom of text towards the engine, aka upside down if you're leaning over the right fender.
 

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I'm...actually starting to panic. Well I would be if I had time for that.
SHO still doesn't run, Kia finally threw a rod, Carlisle is less than a week away, my tummy is sore from Yuengling Porter and RedBull, she starts if I giver her WOT and several seconds of cranking, but she ain't happy about it. Really rough, really smokey, and it's taken my three hours to type this because customers just won't stop!

All serious: I'm at a loss without throwing parts at her, and I only have a week to do it. What do I do now?
 

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