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DadMobile

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No, I'm calling you out for acting on feelings and putting judgment on me without any factual basis. We were friends then you made a story up in your head that I was against you and here we are.

Not to mention you got kicked from that group for abusing your admin powers and deleting another admins post without consulting anybody first.

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Starting to remind me of something like this.

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I deleted a post with a bunch of false claims in it - that’s what mods are supposed to do. Just because Andrew is an admin it doesn’t mean he has some almighty power to lie and slander people based off his CHATGPT research.

I live by a code ethics which involves things like Integrity and Honor. You operate like a metaphorical rat, always disingenuous and never telling the full truth. I have spent almost my entire life in service of others. One of you is a convicted crack dealer and the other is salesman.

Got any more?
 

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I deleted a post with a bunch of false claims in it - that’s what mods are supposed to do. Just because Andrew is an admin it doesn’t mean he has some almighty power to lie and slander people based off his CHATGPT research.

I live by a code ethics which involves things like Integrity and Honor. You operate like a metaphorical rat, always disingenuous and never telling the full truth. I have spent almost my entire life in service of others. One of you is a convicted crack dealer and the other is salesman.

Got any more?
Cool, I'm glad you're the all mighty decider of what is wrong and right in the world. God complex away.
 

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Cool, I'm glad you're the all mighty decider of what is wrong and right in the world. God complex away.
I guess you are the salesman? No problems there, I've been in sales for decades. Not crack, though.
 

DadMobile

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I guess you are the salesman? No problems there, I've been in sales for decades. Not crack, though.
Nothing personal but salesman, especially ones in the auto industry are know to repaint the truth or outright lie for personal gain.
 

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Took the car out for an epic data log. IMG 9729IMG 9726Topped off the 12 gallon fuel cell and drove around. The car is officially trustworthy now. No issues driving all over.

Car shifted clean! 3-4 short shifted a little at 5700rpm, hit 4-5 at 5500rpm. Throttle torque reduction but not as bad from 100-60% with a clean shift. Air Load desired met and air actual spilling over so it appears to maintain load regardless scheduled torque was down. Another clean intervention but a lot less aggressive. Major Step forward!!!!!!!

Drive around for an hour. Trans temp 186 degrees…PERFECT. Snap shot on decel from a peak 114 mph when I stopped the data log IMG 9733
Waiting for Revision 6IMG 9737
 

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Quick log update from last night.

I already posted the excited version because the car shifted clean, but I spent more time actually going through the log this morning. Log review takes time, especially on this Green Oak 2368K strategy, because the story is usually in the relationship between channels, not one single number.

Overall, this revision was a big success.

The car was much happier. The 6-5-4-3 downshift from around 50 mph was clean and fast. At first I almost thought it didn’t downshift because it didn’t smash into 2nd, but at 50 mph that actually makes sense. 2nd would have been extremely short there. The car pulled from about 50 mph to 114 mph and the shifts were clean.

Some really good data points showed up.

Transmission fluid temp went from roughly 180°F to 189°F during the pull. That is excellent information because the transmission is finally operating in a real temperature window instead of the cold/fluid-mismatch weirdness I was chasing before.

Engine coolant temp actually dropped during the pull, from about 185°F down to 176°F by 114 mph. That tells me airflow through the cooling package is working and the hood louvers are doing their job.

IAT was around 68–70°F and IAT2 peaked around 102°F on 93 octane only. No methanol injection yet. That is very reasonable for this stage.

Knock looked happy. It was clean and even ramped negative, meaning the PCM was adding spark instead of pulling it.

Fueling also looked composed. Wideband EQ ratio stayed around 1.00–0.99, injector pulse width stayed around 2.9 ms, trims were reasonable, and fuel rail actual was only slightly behind desired rather than collapsing. That is not a fuel system falling on its face.

WGDC was basically zero the whole pull. It hit 1.0 briefly on the hit, then went back to 0.000. So this is still essentially wastegate spring territory.

Now the interesting part.

The throttle was still being managed by torque control, but this time the event was much cleaner and easier to understand.

Early in the pull, desired load was around 1.36 and actual air load was around 1.17. Throttle was still 100% and Green Oak was happy.

Then actual air load got very close to desired load and throttle started closing. Once air load slightly exceeded desired load, the throttle reduction became much more obvious. I saw throttle position step down through roughly 92%, then 60%, then into the 30% range while air load was slightly above desired load.

That tells me the PCM was not confused. It was controlling the event.

Green Oak was basically saying:
“I’m letting this run, but the actual airflow/load trajectory is now exceeding the modeled desired trajectory, so I’m going to manage throttle authority.”

And honestly, that is exactly what this strategy is supposed to do.

The big conclusion from this log is: Wastegate spring is still too powerful for the current modeled trajectory.

That sounds funny, but it makes sense. The hardware is moving enough air on spring pressure that the current torque/load model still needs more room before the PCM fully agrees with the event.

So I sent Ryan the log and suggested we run it back at the same boost level, but scaled higher. Same power level. More modeled headroom. Let Green Oak agree with what the hardware is actually doing before we ask for more boost.

That is the proving ground. Not hero pulls. Not big boost. Not forcing it. Same boost. Cleaner model. Cleaner pull. Repeat.

And a random couple pics of how clean this looked after a wash IMG 9718IMG 9720IMG 9721IMG 9723IMG 9724
I also have a new steering wheel coming…OMG it’s going to be Epic. Sparco P310 open
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I deleted a post with a bunch of false claims in it - that’s what mods are supposed to do. Just because Andrew is an admin it doesn’t mean he has some almighty power to lie and slander people based off his CHATGPT research.

I live by a code ethics which involves things like Integrity and Honor. You operate like a metaphorical rat, always disingenuous and never telling the full truth. I have spent almost my entire life in service of others. One of you is a convicted crack dealer and the other is salesman.

Got any more?
Now comes the personal and job/profession attacks...that is rich.

Except you were in sales for GH, and continue to d e e p t h r o a t Matt every chance you get. Get f u c k e d chief.
 

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Too bad we can’t ban him from here @Irish Pride. Dadmobile was inactive for months maybe even more than a year. I think years.

He’s only here now to cause drama. Isn’t contributing anything meaningful and hasn’t for quite some time.
 

DadMobile

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Yup - maybe 4 years ago I helped them answer DM’s for about 2 weeks. GH doesn’t really need sales since they sell their inventory the day they receive it.

Until recently, I have equally recommended AJP as a tuner in SHO world. In the ExST platform I recommend ZFG.

if Andrew, Jordan or anybody wants to post DM’s and insinuate things that aren’t true I’ll reciprocate, which I did.
 

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Too bad we can’t ban him from here @Irish Pride. Dadmobile was inactive for months maybe even more than a year. I think years.

He’s only here now to cause drama. Isn’t contributing anything meaningful and hasn’t for quite some
You want to ban me for telling the truth? You made countless posts attacking others here. You had multiple false attacks on the biggest supporter of our platform to derail his business but that’s perfectly fine??? All I pointed out is that yall don’t have any integrity and you both have a history of lying and showing poor character after you started posting DM’s and trying to insinuate a bunch of nonsense.

Notice how I didn’t say anything about your “epic datalog”. If you keep summoning me I’ll respond.
 

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Yup - maybe 4 years ago I helped them answer DM’s for about 2 weeks. GH doesn’t really need sales since they sell their inventory the day they receive it.

Until recently, I have equally recommended AJP as a tuner in SHO world. In the ExST platform I recommend ZFG.

if Andrew, Jordan or anybody wants to post DM’s and insinuate things that aren’t true I’ll reciprocate, which I did.
Yet days ago, you were literally accusing AJP of copying GH tunes. ......

None of my AJP tunes had a knock issue......just saying.
 

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You want to ban me for telling the truth? You made countless posts attacking others here. You had multiple false attacks on the biggest supporter of our platform to derail his business but that’s perfectly fine??? All I pointed out is that yall don’t have any integrity and you both have a history of lying and showing poor character after you started posting DM’s and trying to insinuate a bunch of nonsense.

Notice how I didn’t say anything about your “epic datalog”. If you keep summoning me I’ll respond.
He hasn't kept summoning you. He blocked you, yet every post you have some dumb shit or meme to post.

You are literally his biggest cheerleader. Congrats.
 

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Yet days ago, you were literally accusing AJP of copying GH tunes. ......

None of my AJP tunes had a knock issue......just saying.
That’s why I said until recently, learn to read.
 

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He hasn't kept summoning you. He blocked you, yet every post you have some dumb shit or meme to post.

You are literally his biggest cheerleader. Congrats.
And yet here you are summoning me again. No Compre de amigo.
 

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Says the guy posting about his Mercedes in a SHO forum..
Is that the best you got Mr. H? You are like LMS. You just keep popping up when you aren't welcome. You actually make me miss @Ryan Selcer.

****, I post about my whole fleet here. Gives me a place I can document my builds, wins, failures, and everything else in between.

Clearly you read it, so I will consider you a fan. However fans aren't pretentious cocksukers like you. So you are a groupie. A tainted groupie, but a groupie all the same.

Keep keepin on!
 

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Keith should start his own thread, imagine how much more cooler his thread would be. How much better the content would be? I can’t believe he hasn’t thought of this. He’s literally sitting on a GoldMine of knowledge, experience and cutting edge insider results of how he….

How he……

Wait? wtf has he done? Seriously?

GH is king!? Where is it king? Where is it on top? All the shit you talk I’d expect you and GH are k. I. L. L I n. G it. But you’re not. And haven’t been. ? Hard flex bro. You’re the guy that could’ve but couldn’t. Cool story. Netflix cancelled you but only after you canceled yourself first.

Heard about your personal issues. Shouldn’t you be searching Tinder instead of SHOForum? Seriously.

But thank you for your service. I say that all the time to my Dad. He’s a retired Colonel+ Special Forces Green Beret. 2 tours. When I say it to him I mean it.

When I say it to you, it’s just a formality.
 

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Gearhead is in the process of revamping everything to make the customer experience and service better, because that's what matters especially since 802SHO doesn't offer any of his parts or services to the public. If you haven't looked at the GH site lately, do so.

This infighting in the SHO community between a self-builder that is doing some interesting things on his own and a longtime Gearhead customer doesn't bode well for either party. 802SHO should be running at the track soon and doing everything he said he would, and hopefully not having the issues with the PCM strategy that I have been clearly outlining for him for years.

Matt
 

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