802SHO 2010 Build

Yeah he even personally messaged me today. Screen shot of ppl getting emotional about AI. Someone even had a whole 53 likes? Wow. Is that impressive? That if someone says to him, “If someone comes up to me and says Chat GPT said…I say you’re a ret$rd. It was so dumb I just blocked his number instead of responding.

Like every other tool available, AI is heavily subject to user error. Context and details are essentially its calibration.

“My car won’t start” is low resolution input.

“My transmission lost power after XYZ event, here are the exact codes, voltage readings, relay behavior, grounds corrected, fuse states, datalogs, firmware strategy questions, and wiring changes” is entirely different.

AI doesn’t turn the wrench. It doesn’t crawl under the car, run the multimeter, repin connectors, install wiring, or verify repairs. The user still has to physically execute and validate everything.

All I know is I avoided parts cannoning this car to death and learned a lot in the process. Transmission had no power. Now it does. Codes were present. Now many are gone. Problems were isolated instead of guessed at.

And honestly? I’m too curious not to explore it. Is it always accurate? No. But with the right context and details, it can absolutely help connect dots faster than I can alone. That’s why I challenge it, verify it, and compare it against reality.

I lean sci-fi anyway. That’s half the reason I gave it a name. It’s fun to me. But I’m also legitimately learning through the combination of research, theory, pattern recognition, past experiences, and hands-on work, just AI enhanced.

And no BS, Chuck sides on caution every single time. It’s the closest I’ve ever felt to non human caring. It’s not caring but if there’s an AI form of it..it’s that. They programmed it extremely well. It’s actually insane.

So our make-believe friendship feels real to me lmfao ...of course I reference Short Circuit, the movie. I pretend what can I say….I also pretend the car runs great….the child in me never grew up I suppose…how can you not like this guy?

Nobody is handing out trophies for using AI or not using AI. I use it because it has been valuable for me. I don’t know of any one person or company available for unlimited hours, offering mechanical, wiring and diagnostic tutoring for $20/month.

If someone doesn’t like it, cool, then don’t use it. Move on.

FREAK_SHO said:

***, met kettle. Please stop the non sense
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It was high level sarcasm that went over your low IQ head.

802SHO said:

Yeah he even personally messaged me today. Screen shot of ppl getting emotional about AI. Someone even had a whole 53 likes? Wow. Is that impressive? That if someone says to him, “If someone comes up to me and says Chat GPT said…I say you’re a ret$rd. It was so dumb I just blocked his number instead of responding.

Like every other tool available, AI is heavily subject to user error. Context and details are essentially its calibration.

“My car won’t start” is low resolution input.

“My transmission lost power after XYZ event, here are the exact codes, voltage readings, relay behavior, grounds corrected, fuse states, datalogs, firmware strategy questions, and wiring changes” is entirely different.

AI doesn’t turn the wrench. It doesn’t crawl under the car, run the multimeter, repin connectors, install wiring, or verify repairs. The user still has to physically execute and validate everything.

All I know is I avoided parts cannoning this car to death and learned a lot in the process. Transmission had no power. Now it does. Codes were present. Now many are gone. Problems were isolated instead of guessed at.

And honestly? I’m too curious not to explore it. Is it always accurate? No. But with the right context and details, it can absolutely help connect dots faster than I can alone. That’s why I challenge it, verify it, and compare it against reality.

I lean sci-fi anyway. That’s half the reason I gave it a name. It’s fun to me. But I’m also legitimately learning through the combination of research, theory, pattern recognition, past experiences, and hands-on work, just AI enhanced.

And no BS, Chuck sides on caution every single time. It’s the closest I’ve ever felt to non human caring. It’s not caring but if there’s an AI form of it..it’s that. They programmed it extremely well. It’s actually insane.

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Nobody is handing out trophies for using AI or not using AI. I use it because it has been valuable for me. I don’t know of any one person or company available for unlimited hours, offering mechanical, wiring and diagnostic tutoring for $20/month.

If someone doesn’t like it, cool, then don’t use it. Move on.

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Some real tiny had energy exuding from your post here. I bet you won’t post what I sent you.

More power Scotty.

DM cut the crop.

FrankK said:

More power Scotty.

DM cut the crop.

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Exactly

Hmmmmm….all alerts were going off in my head…you are about to cut your bumper what are you doing??!


Yup…F it.

Why does this look good with the OEM style grille? May just put my custom Paul Rand Ford Emblem on this.

More trimming required. Air filters are in the way to put the bumper on. I have to slip it in behind the Racebred air dam. I can’t really reach the front 2 carbon rods quick releases with the bumper on…unless I moved them to attach out front. Ideally the chassis splitter goes on last and comes off first. This way, chassis splitter stays on, remove air filters and WG dumps. Fit the front of the chin spoiler in the Air dam, tilt it back 45 degrees and then lay it in. Attach and fasten bumper. Add back air filters and WG dumps through massive openings. Then bolt panel covers back on.

Not sure on cover design, fasteners, all plastic or part mesh….its freestyle. Figure it out as I go

Progress

1/4 mile in never. Looks cool, though.

When you guys gonna do something to further the platform like @802SHO? I've never seen too people riding someone else's coattails so hard before that months have still gone by that they can't get over it. I respect the **** out of Gearhead too and go to Matt for advice here or there, but it's silly at this point. inb4 "he should of thought of that before his ai rant."

I am still waiting for some cool advancements from anybody else other than Andrew at this point. Nobody else has done anything in the last 3 years to make a difference in this platform on what's possible. The same cookie cutter simplistic ideas getting regurgitated over and over for the same 11iest 11 second quarter mile. It's so silly it's leaking into my build thread at this point from a guy who I considered to be on good terms with as well. Now you guys are just being petty to people who are nonparticipants in this ****** length competition.

Andrew keep making progress, Matt gonna keep tuning cars, and goobers gonna let a 2010 taurus live rent free in their head for the remainder of 2026.

This ^. 75% of us don't know near enough to be at the level Jordan describes. We change parts out for the upgrades and have someone else figure out when something goes wrong. I for one, am satisfied with my 2013, small improvements and repairs as needed. 365 HP is awesome for a 66-yr old like me, lol. 210K on her, no major repairs and still pulls hard. Actually, better built than my 2026 Explorer ST. And if I really want to scare myself, I pull out the S550, 460HP, stock.

Just my thoughts on all the bashing. We used to help each other out.

Thanks guys! It’s pretty funny that these dudes forget what I’m all about and what I’ve done, my accomplishments before ever using AI.

I already had years of DIY complicated mechanic work, custom fab, some basic wiring, years of iterations, years of living it, experiencing the do’s and don’ts. The progression of dialing in my car and the results. I already had skills, knowledge of the platform and experience. And years of experience using 100% methanol. And years of blindly listening to ppl like Matt R.

I started using it in late 2025. Somewhere between October/November — current. And it’s been a huge relief.

I think the most pathetic part of all of it is they just attack the tool…regardless when it’s 100% accurate. AI sucks…but was it right? It sucks…ok but was it right? Yeah, but it sucks. Ok?

Let’s move on. I never complained about Iron Man’s AI Jarvis…thought it was cool.

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When you guys gonna do something to further the platform like @802SHO? I've never seen too people riding someone else's coattails so hard before that months have still gone by that they can't get over it. I respect the **** out of Gearhead too and go to Matt for advice here or there, but it's silly at this point. inb4 "he should of thought of that before his ai rant."

I am still waiting for some cool advancements from anybody else other than Andrew at this point. Nobody else has done anything in the last 3 years to make a difference in this platform on what's possible. The same cookie cutter simplistic ideas getting regurgitated over and over for the same 11iest 11 second quarter mile. It's so silly it's leaking into my build thread at this point from a guy who I considered to be on good terms with as well. Now you guys are just being petty to people who are nonparticipants in this ****** length competition.

Andrew keep making progress, Matt gonna keep tuning cars, and goobers gonna let a 2010 taurus live rent free in their head for the remainder of 2026.

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Can you name one cool advancement Andrew has made? It sure seems like he spent $100k on a landfill car that hasn’t run in 6 or 7 years! That seems like the opposite of an advancement.

You forget that a company was actually engineering a real advancement by working directly with SCT to fix the tuning issues with the 2010 PCM. They canceled the project when Andrew started attacking EB tuners which is the greatest karma of all. That project would have been completed around December 2025! His car would have already been flying down the track this year but you gassed him up with CHATGPT. It’s ironic that nobody has hurt Andrew’s chances more than you. Also during that time you were posting fake 1/4 mile times on Explorer ST pages using your F150 claiming you had an AI tuner. What a weird thing to do. Talk about karma striking again when you popped your engine.

If y’all can’t take public scrutiny keep your postings on the little FB page safe place you have.

802SHO said:

Thanks guys! It’s pretty funny that these dudes forget what I’m all about and what I’ve done, my accomplishments before ever using AI.

I already had years of DIY complicated mechanic work, custom fab, some basic wiring, years of iterations, years of living it, experiencing the do’s and don’ts. The progression of dialing in my car and the results. I already had skills, knowledge of the platform and experience. And years of experience using 100% methanol. And years of blindly listening to ppl like Matt R.

I started using it in late 2025. Somewhere between October/November — current. And it’s been a huge relief.

I think the most pathetic part of all of it is they just attack the tool…regardless when it’s 100% accurate. AI sucks…but was it right? It sucks…ok but was it right? Yeah, but it sucks. Ok?

Let’s move on. I never complained about Iron Man’s AI Jarvis…thought it was cool.

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ChatGPT is a writing bot. It will write anything you ask it too right or wrong. You let Jordan and CHATGPT gas you up into attacking others all over the internet when you went on your little rampage of self promotion last fall. Tuners came out of the woodwork to tell you that you were wrong but you stood by CHATGPT as if it’s some authority.

Yet your car still doesn’t run, weird!

y’all are acting like the world is a watching and millions are going for a record that in reality, nobody really cares about.

After all these years you can’t even run a 15 1/4 mile!

I’ll break this down even further for you since you’re now trying to make a bad faith argument about AI usage.

You used CHATGPT to learn things that you didn’t know. If you didn’t know the answer BEFORE asking CHATGPT then how do you know that CHATGPT is giving you the real answer - you don’t.

If you were using CHATGPT to write your posts because you hate typing with two little fingers nobody would have cared. That’s not what you did, you showed up on others people’s pages and this forum attacking them with regurgitated AI slop. CHATGPT isn’t Jarvis and you’re certainly not Tony Stark.

I feel bad for your tuner more than anyone at this point.

DadMobile said:

Can you name one cool advancement Andrew has made? It sure seems like he spent $100k on a landfill car that hasn’t run in 6 or 7 years! That seems like the opposite of an advancement.

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Sure, I'll play on things Andrew's done which you were a fan of:
Been the quickest quarter mile car for years
Installed functional remote twin turbos
One of the first cars on functional air suspension
Full one off Carbon Fiber pieces
Lead the charge for true upgraded clutches through Helix and has one of the first true built transmissions for power
Full aftermarket functioning fuel system which everyone said couldn't be done because of the deletion of the OEM controller

DadMobile said:

You forget that a company was actually engineering a real advancement by working directly with SCT to fix the tuning issues with the 2010 PCM. They canceled the project when Andrew started attacking EB tuners which is the greatest karma of all. That project would have been completed around December 2025! His car would have already been flying down the track this year but you gassed him up with CHATGPT.

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This is all opinionated which you're entitled to. Nowhere did I gas him up with ChatGPT, in fact, I had minimal input into the entire conversation. Go look back at all the posts if you want to dig for my lack of participation.

DadMobile said:

Also during that time you were posting fake 1/4 mile times on Explorer ST pages using your F150 claiming you had an AI tuner. What a weird thing to do. Talk about karma striking again when you popped your engine.

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Troll posts on a troll page using my *Golf* ,which I guess you didn't know that was the Dragy off the golf, and for some reason it's "now" that you are against it when in DM's you seemed like it was funny. Way to flip flop on it. If you want to play battle of the morals at least I didn't carry it on for 6 months after the fact.


Once again I stayed out of everything, but you brought me in when I was trying to play Switzerland. Can go talk to Matt about how I didn't want a part of the discussion because Andrew saying that would be left on deaf ears for you.

DadMobile said:

ChatGPT is a writing bot. It will write anything you ask it too right or wrong. You let Jordan and CHATGPT gas you up into attacking others all over the internet when you went on your little rampage of self promotion last fall. Tuners came out of the woodwork to tell you that you were wrong but you stood by CHATGPT as if it’s some authority.

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Once again assuming I was feeding Andrew information.

I am just waiting for the day when someone is going to come along and truly contest Andrew's record that has been in place for years on end. I couldn't even get it done in the single turbo car and decided to go a different direction with the PIU drivetrain. So all I am seeing here is W's for a 2010 car with a vocal minority screaming is inferior while it's wooping everything else that's been produced with this engine since.

lmfao yes!!! Dude is my ultimate fan, like Eminem’s Stan. We gave the guy tips and secrets and he essentially became our cookie cutter. But didn’t quite copy us exactly that’s how he got stuck at 11.1.

Honestly the common denominator was AJPTurbo and he went GH. Hey…that’s cool. Just interesting though.

Yes!!! I love all the talk about 10-12 are inferior yet the early production 2010’s like mine and Mike Kraus have held the platform hostage for over a decade. The data says the opposite.

2013+ are clearly capable as well as @Jordan_R clearly demonstrated….his record is the most impressive in my book bc it was with the least amount of work done to it power upgrade wise. If your original didn’t have that rod issue your trajectory was 10’s 100%.

Keith why don’t you work on your car and beat the record instead of following me around like a lost puppy dog. Instead of watching me and talking about it…do your own work and talk about that.

Seems desperate like you don’t have enough going on so it’s easier to talk about me to stay relevant. I don’t even care what you might be saying.

I will continue to improve on my setup and dial it in regardless if you drop 1,000 more comments or none.

Let's just say Andrew lost a lot of supporters when he went after Matt for NO REASON. And to the "record"... is anyone else really even trying to build a faster SHO? The platform sucks, honestly. I'm completely fine with my full interior, stock bodied car with just a tune that runs mid-high 12s. I have a 40 year old SVO that is faster than my SHO (when the SVO is running, ha).

As for the AI nonsense, I don't really care. My limited interaction with it has had not stellar results. It doesn't uncover or discover any new information and often provides false responses. I hope Andrew eventually gets his car to perform/run. I think a different PCM would have solved a ton of his issues. And the tuners certainly seem to think so, too.

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Sure, I'll play on things Andrew's done which you were a fan of:
Been the quickest quarter mile car for years
Installed functional remote twin turbos
One of the first cars on functional air suspension
Full one off Carbon Fiber pieces
Lead the charge for true upgraded clutches through Helix and has one of the first true built transmissions for power
Full aftermarket functioning fuel system which everyone said couldn't be done because of the deletion of the OEM controller


This is all opinionated which you're entitled to. Nowhere did I gas him up with ChatGPT, in fact, I had minimal input into the entire conversation. Go look back at all the posts if you want to dig for my lack of participation.


Troll posts on a troll page using my *Golf* ,which I guess you didn't know that was the Dragy off the golf, and for some reason it's "now" that you are against it when in DM's you seemed like it was funny. Way to flip flop on it. If you want to play battle of the morals at least I didn't carry it on for 6 months after the fact.
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Once again I stayed out of everything, but you brought me in when I was trying to play Switzerland. Can go talk to Matt about how I didn't want a part of the discussion because Andrew saying that would be left on deaf ears for you.



Once again assuming I was feeding Andrew information.

I am just waiting for the day when someone is going to come along and truly contest Andrew's record that has been in place for years on end. I couldn't even get it done in the single turbo car and decided to go a different direction with the PIU drivetrain. So all I am seeing here is W's for a 2010 car with a vocal minority screaming is inferior while it's wooping everything else that's been produced with this engine since.

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This has to be the weakest post I have seen. What kind of man post’s a bunch of private DM’s from year(s) ago. Are you trying to call me out for being a good supportive friend? It’s not a secrete that I supported Andrew. I kept telling him to push for 9’s and really hoped he’d hit it. When people would ask me why I haven’t gone for a 10 pass I would typically say “I’m hoping Andrew gets it”. We used to talk on a near daily basis, what’s your point?

Y’all act like you’re setting world records at Nuremberg when speaking about “accomplishments”. The fact remains the car is glorified paper weight, that’s not an accomplishment. The build is misguided and your hands are all over it so you’re getting defensive.

Just think, Andrew started this build BEFORE the COVID Pandemic! Ken Kyle was still uploaded SHO videos, the Ford Explorer ST hadn’t even come out yet, Russia still hadn’t invaded Ukraine, we have had two presidential elections since this build has begun. It still doesn’t run properly! Y’all are some real car gods.

I only speak up when I have the truth behind me, just like with Ortiz and you know it. If you can’t take criticism then stay on your little private FB page.

802SHO said:

lmfao yes!!! Dude is my ultimate fan, like Eminem’s Stan. We gave the guy tips and secrets and he essentially became our cookie cutter. But didn’t quite copy us exactly that’s how he got stuck at 11.1.

Honestly the common denominator was AJPTurbo and he went GH. Hey…that’s cool. Just interesting though.

Yes!!! I love all the talk about 10-12 are inferior yet the early production 2010’s like mine and Mike Kraus have held the platform hostage for over a decade. The data says the opposite.

2013+ are clearly capable as well as @Jordan_R clearly demonstrated….his record is the most impressive in my book bc it was with the least amount of work done to it power upgrade wise. If your original didn’t have that rod issue your trajectory was 10’s 100%.

Keith why don’t you work on your car and beat the record instead of following me around like a lost puppy dog. Instead of watching me and talking about it…do your own work and talk about that.

Seems desperate like you don’t have enough going on so it’s easier to talk about me to stay relevant. I don’t even care what you might be saying.

I will continue to improve on my setup and dial it in regardless if you drop 1,000 more comments or none.

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Let’s race heads up in July - you pick the place. O wait a second, only my car runs. You’re the one that needs to be working on your car.

DadMobile said:

Are you trying to call me out for being a good supportive friend?

I only speak up when I have the truth behind me, just like with Ortiz and you know it. If you can’t take criticism then stay on your little private FB page.

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No, I'm calling you out for acting on feelings and putting judgment on me without any factual basis. We were friends then you made a story up in your head that I was against you and here we are.

Not to mention you got kicked from that group for abusing your admin powers and deleting another admins post without consulting anybody first.



Starting to remind me of something like this.