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My current engine bay. If verified, replacing the solenoid assembly is easy AF! Just drain and unbolt. Remove nothing else IMG 8850
It’s too easy. I’m just not a parts cannon hurling parts at it. The data decides if it comes out. Also super easy bc I removed my meth tank when I was splicing power to the fuse49 load path. The way I see it, finishing the meth install is easy so I’ll wait until I’m ready to use it.
 

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When I bought this car in November 2015 with 52k miles I thought it was odd I was the 3rd owner. lol bc why would someone want to get rid of this!?!? Then 1 week later when my speedo dropped to 0 and limp mode stuck in 5th gear happened I thought that’s why, bc it’s a F lemon. I was so mad until I turned it off and back on and it was fine. So that was my introduction to the 2009 TSB OR sensor issue.

What a joy to have such a relic of a car….Sarcasm inserted

Lmfao I should just buy a 13+ PI and put all my parts on it. For f sake
 

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Lmfao AI agrees!? This is f funny. It said:

Honestly? Yeah, that is the nuclear option. And I don’t even think it’s crazy.

A 13+ PI shell would basically be the “stop arguing with 2009 architecture” move. At some point there’s a difference between being persistent and being held hostage by an early-build electrical ghost.

And your story from one week after buying it matters.

Speedo to zero + limp mode + key cycle fixes it absolutely sounds like the kind of intermittent signal/range/speed-input garbage that would make a guy hate the car early. So your “this thing was probably dumped because it was a lemon” theory is not exactly insane.

That said, I would not jump to chassis transplant before the GUB flash.

Because right now you have one very real, very clean variable sitting on the table:

wrong-or-risky firmware strategy on the currently installed hardware

If GUB settles it down, great. You just avoided a body swap because the problem was software/strategy confusion.

If GUB does not settle it down, then your “I should just move all this shit into a 13+ PI” thought starts sounding a lot less emotional and a lot more like a rational endgame:
you keep the good parts, ditch the cursed early architecture, and stop letting a relic-era electronics problem define the whole build.

So my honest take:
Tonight: don’t buy another car in a rage.
Tonight: flash GUB and see whether the ghost loses its voice.

If it still acts possessed after that, then yeah — I’d start treating a 13+ PI chassis as a serious strategic option, not a joke.

LMFAO! Hmmm :)
 

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This is why I’ve become accustomed recently to ignoring hecklers. It’s not arrogance. I just know most people would have quit already, and I know this only becomes impossible if I quit too.

So I’m standing tall through the storm, not because the storm is fun. Because folding in it was never my move.

Mentally I’m already past this, just waiting for reality to catch up.
 

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When I bought this car in November 2015 with 52k miles I thought it was odd I was the 3rd owner. lol bc why would someone want to get rid of this!?!? Then 1 week later when my speedo dropped to 0 and limp mode stuck in 5th gear happened I thought that’s why, bc it’s a F lemon. I was so mad until I turned it off and back on and it was fine. So that was my introduction to the 2009 TSB OR sensor issue.

What a joy to have such a relic of a car….Sarcasm inserted

Lmfao I should just buy a 13+ PI and put all my parts on it. For f sake
After all that crap you talked to Matt, myself and everybody else about not using a 10-12 PCM….. remember like 3 months ago you we’re on a misinformation crusade against GHT for not being able to tune the 10-12 PCM……. Wow…… maybe you can make a bunch of AI posts about it again.

Maybe in another 107 pages you’ll have a properly running car.
 

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This is why I’ve become accustomed recently to ignoring hecklers. It’s not arrogance. I just know most people would have quit already, and I know this only becomes impossible if I quit too.

So I’m standing tall through the storm, not because the storm is fun. Because folding in it was never my move.

Mentally I’m already past this, just waiting for reality to catch up.
your ego is unmatched hahaha. You look like a fool.
 

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Lmfao AI agrees!? This is f funny. It said:

Honestly? Yeah, that is the nuclear option. And I don’t even think it’s crazy.

A 13+ PI shell would basically be the “stop arguing with 2009 architecture” move. At some point there’s a difference between being persistent and being held hostage by an early-build electrical ghost.

And your story from one week after buying it matters.

Speedo to zero + limp mode + key cycle fixes it absolutely sounds like the kind of intermittent signal/range/speed-input garbage that would make a guy hate the car early. So your “this thing was probably dumped because it was a lemon” theory is not exactly insane.

That said, I would not jump to chassis transplant before the GUB flash.

Because right now you have one very real, very clean variable sitting on the table:

wrong-or-risky firmware strategy on the currently installed hardware

If GUB settles it down, great. You just avoided a body swap because the problem was software/strategy confusion.

If GUB does not settle it down, then your “I should just move all this shit into a 13+ PI” thought starts sounding a lot less emotional and a lot more like a rational endgame:
you keep the good parts, ditch the cursed early architecture, and stop letting a relic-era electronics problem define the whole build.

So my honest take:
Tonight: don’t buy another car in a rage.
Tonight: flash GUB and see whether the ghost loses its voice.

If it still acts possessed after that, then yeah — I’d start treating a 13+ PI chassis as a serious strategic option, not a joke.

LMFAO! Hmmm :)
Hahahahahahahahaha
 

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Exactly. I’m not an experienced builder or a shop. I’m literally an auto detailer at heart who ended up in drywall, while teaching myself window tint, mechanic work, and mild fab along the way. I’m learning as I go and choosing to do as much of it myself as possible.

I’m sharing my first real look at what’s involved here. Not necessarily what it takes for everyone, more like what it has taken me to get to this point.
lol. All this back peddling is priceless. “ I’m just a simple guy that can use rags and hammers”. Flowers For Algernon…

Good job. Funny thing is- you could have had your 10-12 pcm tuning if you hadn’t been such ****.
 

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After all that crap you talked to Matt, myself and everybody else about not using a 10-12 PCM….. remember like 3 months ago you we’re on a misinformation crusade against GHT for not being able to tune the 10-12 PCM……. Wow…… maybe you can make a bunch of AI posts about it again.

Maybe in another 107 pages you’ll have a properly running car.
Yet here you are still checking in and blowing GH. Get f u c k e d.
 
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Glad I’m not the only one saying this.

The fuse 49 crap he won’t shut up about is hilarious the PCM AND TCM are the SAME MODULE. They are not separate. If you lost power to the TCM you’d lose power to the PCM.

The car doesn’t work because like I clearly stated before the parameters that require adjustment ARE NOT supported by HP tuners and available to make changes to.

Swallow your massive ego. Switch to a 2013+ ECU and watch all your damn problems go away overnight.
 

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I am not sure where the whole transmission not working under light throttle is from parameters not supported by hp tuners. Even with everything he has going on putting around town should still function and that's the big issue here before he can get some revisions going.
 

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I flashed my transmission to GUB with the new body ID last night and it was successful and that change broke the communication language barrier with MAP in my custom tune. Looks to have changed my operating system ID.

The transmission worked fine with no buzzing at least while in GUC alone for about 500+ miles of the roughly 700 total.

I’m programming it back to GUC after work. Then I am going to drain the car with battery terminals removed and touching them and holding them together for 15 min.

I have a strong theory that flips the whole situation on its head. That gets tested tonight.

Ready? I’m thick in the weeds here but this is not a clean test sample in a classroom with every perfect tool at my disposal.

It’s in my garage with very little tools, just my God-given pattern recognition, intuition, what I’ve observed and lived and what I’ve learned all put into focus that looks clear only now.

What I think finally happened here is actually pretty insane, and last night a couple major pieces finally snapped into place.

Over the last 700 miles, especially during repeated heavy single-gear WOT pulls, my original 2009 Relay 53 and some oxidized grounds were slowly getting cooked. The first real warning was a P0689 limp event. Then after I beefed up the PCV setup, I made another WOT pull close to home and that was basically the death blow. The trans hung in 3rd, and the car conveniently died right as I rolled into my driveway.

I found and repaired some ugly green grounds, and I also corrected a missing EMI foil issue at the crank sensor. Even after that, the transmission kept dropping out. At the time, the hardware side still wasn’t fully making sense, so I kept chasing power delivery.

Once I got into it with HP Tuners, I found a P1602 and a completely dead BJB Fuse 49. At that point, I did not know Fuse 49 was for heated mirrors. I thought I had found a direct TCM power path problem, so I powered Fuse 49 thinking I was feeding something transmission-critical.

And that is where things started getting weird.

As soon as I powered Fuse 49, the behavior changed. It looked like I had found something real, because the trans would survive a no-load lift test. But it still failed under actual road load. Later on, once I learned Fuse 49 is heated mirrors and shares the bus bar with Relay 53, that changed the entire way I looked at what happened. I was never directly powering the TCM the way I thought I was. I was backfeeding a shared power path just enough to fake progress.

Then it got even more interesting.

I spliced my MaySpare switch panel into that same load path thinking I was directly helping the TCM. But then the car would not even start unless I hit that switch. That changed everything. At that point, it became obvious I wasn’t just helping the TCM…I had actually hotwired the master Relay 53 ignition path without realizing it.

Last night was when the bigger picture finally came together. That was also when I learned about Ford’s latch logic. So now the sequence makes a lot more sense. I likely had an original hardware failure involving Relay 53, voltage drop, grounds, or all of the above. I fixed parts of the hardware, but the system may have already latched the failure and continued holding that state even after the physical issue changed.

Then comes the part that really ties the timeline together. While I was building all of this and finishing the dual battery setup, the car sat completely powerless for about a month. That long drain likely wiped the original software latch. So when I fired it back up with my manual switch taking over the load path, the solenoids were dead silent and the car was happy again. Not because the original issue never happened, but because the car had finally been forced to let go of it.

Of course, that still was not the end of it. My switch panel uses smart solid-state logic and at the time only had a 10-amp fuse on that button. Under real heat and load, the trans appears to want more like 11–12+ amps. So the circuit started choking, voltage dropped, and while the trans was trying to relearn its adaptive tables, it likely saw unstable voltage, panicked, and latched a fresh failure. That lines up way too well with the buzzing coming back.

So tonight’s plan is simple. Flash back to the known-good GUC firmware, do a hard battery drain to wipe any fresh latches, and start it with the switch panel powering that path. It should be dead silent. Then comes the real test: with the engine running, pull Relay 53 straight out of the box.

Why? Because I already cut that wire about 6 inches out of the BJB and manually took over the load path. At this point, Relay 53 should basically be a phantom relay clicking into nothing. If I pull it and the engine keeps running, that proves my bypass is carrying 100% of the load and that the factory electrical bottleneck is officially out of the equation.

That would be the moment this whole electrical ghost stops being a ghost. That would mean what looked like a transmission mystery was really a power path problem, mixed with latch logic, and a whole lot of Ford nonsense layered on top of it with me stuck trying to think my way out of it.

Stay tuned. This one has some serious bite. Only one way to find out. But this is hot on its heels
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I seriously questioned reality when I found fuse 49 is heated F mirrors. F me.
 
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I flashed my transmission to GUB with the new body ID last night and it was successful and that change broke the communication language barrier with MAP in my custom tune. Looks to have changed my operating system ID.

The transmission worked fine with no buzzing at least while in GUC alone for about 500+ miles of the roughly 700 total.

I’m programming it back to GUC after work. Then I am going to drain the car with battery terminals removed and touching them and holding them together for 15 min.

I have a strong theory that flips the whole situation on its head. That gets tested tonight.

Ready? I’m thick in the weeds here but this is not a clean test sample in a classroom with every perfect tool at my disposal.

It’s in my garage with very little tools, just my God-given pattern recognition, intuition, what I’ve observed and lived and what I’ve learned all put into focus that looks clear only now.

What I think finally happened here is actually pretty insane, and last night a couple major pieces finally snapped into place.

Over the last 700 miles, especially during repeated heavy single-gear WOT pulls, my original 2009 Relay 53 and some oxidized grounds were slowly getting cooked. The first real warning was a P0689 limp event. Then after I beefed up the PCV setup, I made another WOT pull close to home and that was basically the death blow. The trans hung in 3rd, and the car conveniently died right as I rolled into my driveway.

I found and repaired some ugly green grounds, and I also corrected a missing EMI foil issue at the crank sensor. Even after that, the transmission kept dropping out. At the time, the hardware side still wasn’t fully making sense, so I kept chasing power delivery.

Once I got into it with HP Tuners, I found a P1602 and a completely dead BJB Fuse 49. At that point, I did not know Fuse 49 was for heated mirrors. I thought I had found a direct TCM power path problem, so I powered Fuse 49 thinking I was feeding something transmission-critical.

And that is where things started getting weird.

As soon as I powered Fuse 49, the behavior changed. It looked like I had found something real, because the trans would survive a no-load lift test. But it still failed under actual road load. Later on, once I learned Fuse 49 is heated mirrors and shares the bus bar with Relay 53, that changed the entire way I looked at what happened. I was never directly powering the TCM the way I thought I was. I was backfeeding a shared power path just enough to fake progress.

Then it got even more interesting.

I spliced my MaySpare switch panel into that same load path thinking I was directly helping the TCM. But then the car would not even start unless I hit that switch. That changed everything. At that point, it became obvious I wasn’t just helping the TCM…I had actually hotwired the master Relay 53 ignition path without realizing it.

Last night was when the bigger picture finally came together. That was also when I learned about Ford’s latch logic. So now the sequence makes a lot more sense. I likely had an original hardware failure involving Relay 53, voltage drop, grounds, or all of the above. I fixed parts of the hardware, but the system may have already latched the failure and continued holding that state even after the physical issue changed.

Then comes the part that really ties the timeline together. While I was building all of this and finishing the dual battery setup, the car sat completely powerless for about a month. That long drain likely wiped the original software latch. So when I fired it back up with my manual switch taking over the load path, the solenoids were dead silent and the car was happy again. Not because the original issue never happened, but because the car had finally been forced to let go of it.

Of course, that still was not the end of it. My switch panel uses smart solid-state logic and at the time only had a 10-amp fuse on that button. Under real heat and load, the trans appears to want more like 11–12+ amps. So the circuit started choking, voltage dropped, and while the trans was trying to relearn its adaptive tables, it likely saw unstable voltage, panicked, and latched a fresh failure. That lines up way too well with the buzzing coming back.

So tonight’s plan is simple. Flash back to the known-good GUC firmware, do a hard battery drain to wipe any fresh latches, and start it with the switch panel powering that path. It should be dead silent. Then comes the real test: with the engine running, pull Relay 53 straight out of the box.

Why? Because I already cut that wire about 6 inches out of the BJB and manually took over the load path. At this point, Relay 53 should basically be a phantom relay clicking into nothing. If I pull it and the engine keeps running, that proves my bypass is carrying 100% of the load and that the factory electrical bottleneck is officially out of the equation.

That would be the moment this whole electrical ghost stops being a ghost. That would mean what looked like a transmission mystery was really a power path problem, mixed with latch logic, and a whole lot of Ford nonsense layered on top of it with me stuck trying to think my way out of it.

Stay tuned. This one has some serious bite. Only one way to find out. But this is hot on its heels
Can’t wait to track my car in two weeks
I am not sure where the whole transmission not working under light throttle is from parameters not supported by hp tuners. Even with everything he has going on putting around town should still function and that's the big issue here before he can get some revisions going.
oo shit when lil man gets stuck in the mud daddy comes out for an explanation!
 

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FMEM is Failure Mode Effects Management. Basically a DTC is a fire alarm whereas FMEM is like a building going into full lockdown.

Relay 53 (PCM power relay) likely weakened and caused the first low-voltage event on the powertrain feed side, which in turn affected C168-15, the transaxle solenoid power control circuit. That likely created the first transmission fault/FMEM event. Then I recreated a second low-voltage event myself through the smart switch panel and undersized 10A protection, which likely hit the same circuit again and triggered the same failure strategy a second time.

That’s the theory event. So the reason the failure path was improved this time is bc this time grounds are good and the bypassed relay 53 is solid power at least low load whereas originally it was bad grounds and a 2009 relay 53 Ford silently didn’t update yet.

Garage electrical reverse engineering
 
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I told him to. Clearly his posts carry zero weight, and he is just cluttering the post.
 

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