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I ordered an XDI Evo HPFP. Doing research on picking up an ethanol sensor. Seems like the common thing here is the Fuel-It BT with a GM sensor. I'm just trying to figure out what is needed as far as fuel lines/adapters.
Call them and get there adapter kit for hpfp for our platform, install can be done without it but for just a little more money you get a clean fit.
 

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Put PowerStop Z37 Top Cop Carbon Fiber Ceramic pads and PowerStop Evolution Drilled and Slotted rotors on all 4 corners. I am pretty sure that at least all 4 rotors and rear pads were OE. Maybe even front pads. (87k miles). Feels like a huge improvement. Still waiting on my braided steel mesh brake hoses. Then I will do a fluid flush and hose install.
That's too bad! Don't EVER buy drilled rotors! Actually, the best are blanks, but grooved/slotted are, grudgingly, semi-OK. Drilled are purely for show at cruise nights. Worthless for performance use like track days.
 

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I ordered an XDI Evo HPFP. Doing research on picking up an ethanol sensor. Seems like the common thing here is the Fuel-It BT with a GM sensor. I'm just trying to figure out what is needed as far as fuel lines/adapters.
I told them I was using the fuel-it and it came plug and play.
 

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That's too bad! Don't EVER buy drilled rotors! Actually, the best are blanks, but grooved/slotted are, grudgingly, semi-OK. Drilled are purely for show at cruise nights. Worthless for performance use like track days.
I appreciate it but through research from multiple vendors and technical articles, drilled and slotted is the best fit for my application. The drilled holes aid the vanes in air flow as well as allow water to escape the braking surface. This is a daily driver that is driven in the rain and sees hard applications during these conditions. The slots allow for venting of gases during heavy application. As I am a volunteer firefighter and use the vehicle for emergency response, this vehicle sees applications similar to pursuit driving/track driving. I spoke to multiple tech advisors before settling on my choice. I appreciate your opinion though.
 

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I ordered an XDI Evo HPFP. Doing research on picking up an ethanol sensor. Seems like the common thing here is the Fuel-It BT with a GM sensor. I'm just trying to figure out what is needed as far as fuel lines/adapters.

thank you for your order sir!

With the XDI-EVO and adapter line that you ordered from us, I would recommend this kit:


You can either get it with a hardwire line for a physical gauge, or use the Bluetooth adapter for your phone. For our cars I would recommend the GM 13577429 sensor, you can either buy it with that kit, or online. I've found that RockAuto/eBay/Amazon have the best prices, just make sure you don't accidentally buy the 3D printed mount and purchase the actual sensor.

Other than that, you have everything you need on order, and as soon as it ships we'll toss you tracking information and you can let me know if you have any other questions regarding install. It's pretty straight forward.
 

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I told them I was using the fuel-it and it came plug and play.

How long ago was that? XDI used to include new lines and the specification of OEM or ECA would just determine which low pressure fitting they included, but since the new pump design is made to use the OEM line, they haven't been including the flex line for quite some time now, which is why we started offering our own.
 

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thank you for your order sir!

With the XDI-EVO and adapter line that you ordered from us, I would recommend this kit:


You can either get it with a hardwire line for a physical gauge, or use the Bluetooth adapter for your phone. For our cars I would recommend the GM 13577429 sensor, you can either buy it with that kit, or online. I've found that RockAuto/eBay/Amazon have the best prices, just make sure you don't accidentally buy the 3D printed mount and purchase the actual sensor.

Other than that, you have everything you need on order, and as soon as it ships we'll toss you tracking information and you can let me know if you have any other questions regarding install. It's pretty straight forward.
Got the rest of the ethanol stuff ordered. Thanks Lee.
 

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And, with heavy use, cracks WILL start around the holes.
I believe you. It sounds pretty clear you’re talking from experience. Road course racing? I’m on my second set of drilled and slotted rotors since 2016 and from daily driving to drag strip fun I’ve never had or seen the above mentioned problem. I know the rotors I’ve used aren’t top of the line. I have never taken the car on a road course/circuit track though. Is it safe to say that we’re unlikely to ever have that issue unless we want to start doing repetitive road course racing?
 

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I believe you. It sounds pretty clear you’re talking from experience. Road course racing? I’m on my second set of drilled and slotted rotors since 2016 and from daily driving to drag strip fun I’ve never had or seen the above mentioned problem. I know the rotors I’ve used aren’t top of the line. I have never taken the car on a road course/circuit track though. Is it safe to say that we’re unlikely to ever have that issue unless we want to start doing repetitive road course racing?
They're perfectly safe for regular use, they just don't provide a benefit for the cost.

Under heavy use (high heat), they can crack. If you do high speed runs, I'd stick with solid rotors. Slowing down from 100+ mph cooks breaks like nothing else can.

In my autocross days, I've seen several cars have issues with drilled rotors.
 

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Brake rotors are also big and heavy for a reason. They are heat sinks and mass equates to storage capacity.
While the holes add surface area for cooling area and venting for brake pad gases, the loss of Mass is a negative as well.
Mind, if the holes are chamfered, stress related cracking can be slightly mitigated.
 
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They're perfectly safe for regular use, they just don't provide a benefit for the cost.
As far as cost, by shopping around, I was able to get them cheaper than the solids from most common vendors. I paid $159.26 ($79.63 ea). Compare that to RockAuto and your only getting cheaper if you drop to the DD class and Wagner, Centric, Durago type brands.
 

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Brake rotors are also big and heavy for a reason.
As far as mass, these are a solid hat design as opposed the the original vented hat design. Ford has superseded to the solid hat design yet most of the aftermarkets still picture the vented hat. With the added mass in the hat and the decreased mass in the surface, I would guess it is pretty close to a wash. They are also thicker than the OE rotor. If I wanted added mass, I could have gone with the blanks from PowerStop with the solid hat and thicker overall.
 

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As far as mass, these are a solid hat design as opposed the the original vented hat design. Ford has superseded to the solid hat design yet most of the aftermarkets still picture the vented hat. With the added mass in the hat and the decreased mass in the surface, I would guess it is pretty close to a wash. They are also thicker than the OE rotor. If I wanted added mass, I could have gone with the blanks from PowerStop with the solid hat and thicker overall.
Ok, so they're non-vented rear rotors. Venting holes might actually help with cooling then. Obviously the rear brakes don't see as high of temperature gradient (shock loads). Thicker materials such as solid rotors can tend to crack more easily but with the lower heat gradient I think you would be safe. Try and add some chamfering to the vent holes if none are present. It helps to redirect the stresses around the holes rather than through the holes.
 

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I would guess it's for weight savings, looks and I would wager they also have grooves as well.
As a friend told me, i think they look really cool.
maybe our friends should talk.
 

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I would guess it's for weight savings, looks and I would wager they also have grooves as well.
As a friend told me, i think they look really cool.
maybe our friends should talk.
Most Mercedes ceramic rotors that I have seen are just drilled. No slots, grooves, just holes. I would think Mercedes would know something if those rotors are starting at 5K a pop.
 
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