EVAP hose aftermarket replacement?

[ctubutis]

1995 3.0L the heater hose between the back of the block & the tube leading to the heater core blew out, so I'm using the opportunity to basically replace all rubber cooling-system hoses.

Ordered some Gates hoses, 18020 & a piece of STI DH1 from Oreilly which should take care of my immediate problem.

But I came across the EVAP hose, this stuff is turning to dust as I manipulate it. What are you guys using for this?

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[yaycandy]

Not sure how different my 90 is but i ordered all the sizes i needed on summit in silicone so would last longer. And got them red

....and one out of place blue one because they ran out of red

 

[ctubutis]

Not sure how different my 90 is but i ordered all the sizes i needed on summit in silicone so would last longer. And got them red

....and one out of place blue one because they ran out of red

Thanks, dude, I like the colored-hose approach, it matches the colored thumbscrew hose clamps I'm trying to implement at the same time.

 

[PaulTAutoX]

Not sure how different my 90 is but i ordered all the sizes i needed on summit in silicone so would last longer. And got them red

....and one out of place blue one because they ran out of red

Sounds like a plan. Got pics?

 

[rubydist]

I use gasoline rated vacuum tubing because I am too cheap for the silicone stuff...

 

[ctubutis]

I use gasoline rated vacuum tubing because I am too cheap for the silicone stuff...

Wow, Frederick replied! I'm just now seeing this.

I ended up doing half & half... bought some black silicone from Ontrack (local speedshop) which was crossmember to solenoid, then used fuel line solenoid to throttle body.

Took it to Bandimere today (had Steve drive ) but the CEL comes on 10 minutes into highway trips... 172 & 542, both fuel control... my guess is CCRM.......

 

[rubydist]

But you don't get 2-digit and 3-digit codes, they should be 3-digit codes on that car. Please check again.

 

[ctubutis]

But you don't get 2-digit and 3-digit codes, they should be 3-digit codes on that car. Please check again.

Phuque, I hate it when I don't pay close enough attention...

172 H1 (in the book) Fuel Control
542 J90 Fuel Pump Circuit

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I just today swapped CCRMs with the other silver Taurus, I noticed it's a D code and not an M... it works in that car, so it should work in this one....

Then will come a starter motor(s) needing attention, I guess....

 

[zoomlater]

From the page below, code 172 has to do with the oxygen sensor

172 (R,M) Oxygen sensor not switching - system is or was lean - Single, Right orr Rear HO2S - Fuel control

SHO Phoenix Project (archive.org)

You want to stick with the same M code or D code CCRM, there was a thread discussing the possibility of swapping them, but I don't recall that being a good idea. Somethings may not work properly.

 

[zoomlater]

here are the differences between the CCRM's

Fuel Pump cutting in and out. | SHO Forum

 

[ctubutis]

This is odd, they are both Ds, I thought I was supposed to have M?

Boy, it's been a while since I was last into these cars....

 

[rubydist]

The 172 could just be a sick oxy sensor. How old are those?

 

[zoomlater]

This is odd, they are both Ds, I thought I was supposed to have M?

Boy, it's been a while since I was last into these cars....

94 and 95 MTX cars used a D code, the earlier MTX cars used the M code.

 

[ctubutis]

94 and 95 MTX cars used a D code, the earlier MTX cars used the M code.

Boy, I'm starting to really hate these frikin' cars....

The fuel pump stays on for toooooo long (sometimes!!!) upon shutdown. My first thoughts are CCRM but this is a replacement (not really known to be good, but i think it is) and the same problem still exists.

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111 KOEO

172 KOER = H1 = Fuel Control in the book. These results are from a code reader thingie that came with the car

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KOER, that tester thing gave me a 30 and then sat there, i have no idea what's up with that.

After running the tester's KOER built-in test, the blinkenlight on the dash showed me:

412 = Idle Air Control
521 = Power steering sensor

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What do you guys think? I'm ready to shoot this thing....

 

[ctubutis]

No idea on the O2 sensors, those have been phuqued with in the past but i don't remember on which car

 

[rubydist]

Good chance the ccrm has a sticky relay that sometimes doesn't want to unlatch.

 

[Chris Tubutis]

30 psi fuel pressure idle
29 psi @ sustained 2500-3000 rpm

Sounds a bit lower than I'm expecting but maybe I'm remembering truck specs, I forget...

I can do some swapping around of CCRMs, I guess; nothing happened (e.g. pump didn't shut off) when O banged on it with my cellphone, maybe it's being told to stay on? I have a spare computer I got from a junkyard several years ago, I think it's at Steve's house....

 

[ctubutis]

OK, I swapped in the CCRM from Steve's car (the black one, at his house) and made no other changes, we'll see what happens....

 

[Chris Tubutis]

On my 3rd CCRM and the problem is still there.

I have this computer I got from a JY a few years ago, this should work (at least as a test), correct?

Hope this works, today's cameras record in a bajillion gigapixels, I swear....



EDIT changed the picture

BTW Fred sorry for the multiple accounts, I'm using multiple computers....

-ct

 

[zoomlater]

Here is the breakdown

PCM ECU Computer (Used) ( 89-95 ; 96-99 ) V6 / V8

SHO Source has a limited number of excellent condition used Powertrain Control Modules (PCM). The PCM is the main computer for your car and controls practically everything in the car. SHO Source has a limited number of excellent condition used Powertrain Control Modules (PCM). The PCM is the...

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