SHO Source Turbo Kit
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So do I! 
There will be options for what is included in the kit from just pipes to everything.
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
You guys know your business, but I would offer a suggestion to offer it just one way: as a complete kit.
Otherwise, you will be pestered with questions/********/dissing as folks "do their own thing" and screw things up.
This is not an upgrade for the financially/mechanically challenged, and I wouldn't cut corners to get the marginal customers on board.
Oh I agree but some people may have the Tweecer, PFR, pump etc... so we do need some flexibility there.
Other than the fuel and tuning upgrades, I too would encourage you to offer it only as a full kit (turbo, pipes, bov/wg, oil feed and drain, IC and pipes). If people need to piece it together, there are other routes to go. And IMO, they will not finish. I sold 18-19 hot pipes kits, and I think only 2-3 are actual running cars.
TT
TT
pitaSHO
Why do I do this to myself?
I disagree. I would really like to build a turbo car, but I'm not going to have 2-3k dollars anytime soon. I would love to buy the pipes, though, and build it as I have the cash. That makes it a lot more do-able. The pipes are the only custom made part of the kit, other than maybe an intercooler/intercooler pipes. Everything else can always be purchased later because they are mass produced and don't require custom work; just order the turbo and shazam! It arrives.
Chris K.
Chris K.
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
Do you understand what the concept of a "kit" is??
for what you describe, go do it yourself.
I'm sorry, but I still pick up a gist in this thread that guys who don't know where next month's rent is coming from are looking at this as some kind of cheap way out.
As I said earlier. Set aside $10K. "IF" and "WHEN" you ever buy the kit and install it, you will chew up that $10K fixing all of the other stuff on the car.
zblackbeast
SHOtarded
Cheap no, easier, yes. for me, im slightly turbo ******** even after reading tims post in the boost section. i understand the logistics of it and the base floor of it, but a lot of it goes over my head. Do i have ALL that money now, no.. how many people have 5k sitting aside just for a turbo build.. Not many at all. when the time comes for purchasing this "kit" yar, i bet there will be a lot of people ready. What i get from others post with the selling separately is that some people are going to be ahead of the game, so having some of those parts in teh kit are a straight waste of money. Me myself am starting to gather up parts for the turbo build i have in the works, but when this kit is done or when im ready to buy a blower ill have most of this stuff, because i bet you i can make it more economical for myself this way.. Where i, and others, may need SHOsources help is in the hot and cold pipes, charge cooling, blower and BOV and all necessary oiling and vacuum lines. that is all i mean from my posts.. food for thought
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A lot of people do not understand the hidden costs on doing something like this considering the car wasn't boosted from the factory.
For those that are looking for a "kit" such as this and have never done anythingg like this, go with the proven setup as such. A complete kit, if done right, will turn out to be the cheapest and most reliable option. This kit would also only be about half of the equation. You WILL need a new clutch. You WILL need to address your cooling if tracked. It would be wise to upgrade your brakes and none of this accounts for possible failures and other maintenance items that will likely need to addressed.
We are not trying to discourage anyone, but prepare you for actual costs. I did piece my setup together because I wanted certain parts, but it required a lot of thinking and problem solving on my end. I enjoy that stuff, but I did not save any money. Back then, there was no complete kit that was done right. Even the kits out there did not offer much on the customer service side of things.
In the end, if you can get a complete FI kit that properly addresses fuel and tuning, TAKE IT. Getting the parts to fit is just the start of getting it to run.
For those that are looking for a "kit" such as this and have never done anythingg like this, go with the proven setup as such. A complete kit, if done right, will turn out to be the cheapest and most reliable option. This kit would also only be about half of the equation. You WILL need a new clutch. You WILL need to address your cooling if tracked. It would be wise to upgrade your brakes and none of this accounts for possible failures and other maintenance items that will likely need to addressed.
We are not trying to discourage anyone, but prepare you for actual costs. I did piece my setup together because I wanted certain parts, but it required a lot of thinking and problem solving on my end. I enjoy that stuff, but I did not save any money. Back then, there was no complete kit that was done right. Even the kits out there did not offer much on the customer service side of things.
In the end, if you can get a complete FI kit that properly addresses fuel and tuning, TAKE IT. Getting the parts to fit is just the start of getting it to run.
zblackbeast
SHOtarded
It will be nice once they get the "kit" figured out to see a parts list of what will all be included even tho i have a fairly good idea after working on your SHO Jason and talking with you.
pitaSHO
Why do I do this to myself?
There's two things to consider. First, SHOSource is awesome at providing quality products for a car that does not have much in the way of aftermarket performance parts; so for that they get mega props. Second, a business should be there to make money. That's how they stay going. If you only get ten guys that want kits, you sell ten sets of pipes. If you get ten MORE guys who want just pipes, what's wrong with selling just the pipes and making some more cash? If somebody buys a set of pipes and never builds a turbo car, so what? That's their problem. I've been around boosted SHOs for years now and have priced it out every which way. I know what it costs. I just want the opportunity to build it as I have cash. Offering just the pipes is just a suggestion; SHOSource is going to offer it the best way they see fit.
Focker, out.
Chris K.
Focker, out.
Chris K.
stangeater
Farm Boy
From a business aspect, making your target market only people who have 10k to set aside for a project like this would not be wise. If that were the case, why drive a SHO? Look around this forum, most people are "do it yourselfers".
I like the idea of a kit, but on the other hand I think they should also offer it in a piece by piece offering for those who don't need the whole kit. It's not a "I don't have the money so I just want one piece", It's more like I've already got the turbo I want for my setup, but want hot pipes, fuel upgrades etc..
I'm sure SHOsource will make the right decision..
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From a business aspect, making your target market only people who have 10k to set aside for a project like this would not be wise. If that were the case, why drive a SHO? Look around this forum, most people are "do it yourselfers".
I like the idea of a kit, but on the other hand I think they should also offer it in a piece by piece offering for those who don't need the whole kit. It's not a "I don't have the money so I just want one piece", It's more like I've already got the turbo I want for my setup, but want hot pipes, fuel upgrades etc..
I'm sure SHOsource will make the right decision..
You are right .... to a point.
But Ron is right as well.
It comes down to one simple thing - money. Thats money people have to spend and money SHOsource is out having items on the shelf. Selling pieces of it to the few who, lets be realistic, are buying it in pieces because they are low on cash, not because they want to build their own setup, is not cost effective. Yes, there are a FEW who would want to piece it together for specific build purposes, but the majority would be so they could piece the kit together over time as they have money.
How much can SHOsource afford to have tied up in products that MAY sell for people who MAY want to piece together a kit vs people who buy a full kit?
If you can get a GB of just pipes with deposits, great, but I would not order extra parts for those who MAY want to piece it together.
This is all moot anyway as the topic is about option 1 or option 2 from the OP.
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Not always, more flexibility equals more money up front that you have tied up in a product that you may or may not make back.
Now would be the time for people to show interest in JUST pipes for a GB to get them at a low cost. And just like any other GB, should require deposits up front.
Now would be the time for people to show interest in JUST pipes for a GB to get them at a low cost. And just like any other GB, should require deposits up front.
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