Guess what i just got to ride in??????

[MADDOG11]

We just had Ford rep. here showing off #9 preproduction SHO. He said this one is running 23 psi, instead of the 11 psi the factory version will come with. All I can say is WOW! This thing is a screamer! The way it is right now I would say it would give a Viper/Vette a run for the money (in a straight line)! He wouldn't let me drive it (*****). Then he really broke my heart by saying, "when we're done with showing this one off we're going to crush it!" WTF!!??!! The reason he gave is because this things' fit and finnish is horrable and it's just barely street legal! I offered to give it a loving home, to no avail! He mentioned there is ongoing talks about a true manual 6spd in the future?!?

Also mentioned, the Ecoboost will be offered in the Stang (of course), Flex, Edge, F150 and maybe (just maybe) the Fusion!

 

[FOMOCOTOSHO]

23psi?? Wow.. Any engineers out there that can do the math and calculate what kind of hp/tq #'s that would be on this motor? Would have been fun man!

 

[NEp8ntballer]

for every 14.7 PSI you double the amount of HP because you are cramming twice as much air in than normal atmospheric pressure. so that motor is churning out close to or more than 600HP if the guy isn't full of shit.

 

[All-Or-Nothing]

Well I hope the guy was telling the truth about 23 psi.....

If he is I wonder what the life expectancy of this engine would be and if the transmission would last long under that stress.

If he is telling the truth I'm on the edge of my seat now.

 

[ycode90]

Only if the VE is 100% to start with.

 

[Racer X]

23 psi?

I want to believe, I really do.

Please don't let this be BS...

 

[somedude_001]

if they were going to crush the car anyway why not ramp up the power to see what breaks so they can use it for research.

 

[MADDOG11]

if they were going to crush the car anyway why not ramp up the power to see what breaks so they can use it for research.

Actually, I posed this same question. His responce was, "we've had the boost maxed out at 32psi on these engines with no failures during testing. However, for the most part, the vehicle IS uncontrolable". Now, he wouldn't confirm if this was that vehicle or not! If I had to guess, from the way is accel'ed, I would put it around 425-450 whp @23psi?!? Maybe more??

The really strange thing is I thought these were small turbos!?! 32psi doesn't sound too small to me!

 

[yamahaSHO]

The really strange thing is I thought these were small turbos!?! 32psi doesn't sound too small to me!

You're confusing pressure with flow....

I also think the guy fed you more of what you wanted to hear rather than what the production car will be capable of. We don't have much longer to see what these cars are capable of.

 

[jonmon6691]

The really strange thing is I thought these were small turbos!?! 32psi doesn't sound too small to me!

Very efficient little turbos?

Makes me wonder what can be done with a GT-R, bigger motor, bigger turbos...

 

[MADDOG11]

You're confusing pressure with flow....

I also think the guy fed you more of what you wanted to hear rather than what the production car will be capable of. We don't have much longer to see what these cars are capable of.

No, we wern't talking cfm! He did say pounds of boost. As a matter of fact I didn't ask about psi he volenteerned the info. However, I did mistate the factory boost level. It will be set at 12psi (6psi per turbo/bank) not 11psi as I stated above.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I was talking about your comment about the turbos being small.

 

[MADDOG11]

I was talking about your comment about the turbos being small.

Oh, sorry! I wasn't yelling.

 

[kikkinasphalt]

it still weighs in like a barge.

and apparently stops like one too...




Edit* i think he was whispering sweet nothings in your ear too.

 

[Brett]

Anyone else having a hard time with this one?

 

[MADDOG11]

Anyone else having a hard time with this one?

"hard time" with what? The Ford rep. was doing sales training on the Ecoboost as well as the SHO! I decided to sit in on my lunch.

 

[Brett]

"hard time" with what? The Ford rep. was doing sales training on the Ecoboost as well as the SHO! I decided to sit in on my lunch.

Several reputable forum members have already stated the transmission wont hold over 400 foot pounds of torque according to ford. I'm not saying your the one bullshitting, but the rep could have been. Was there an aftermarket boost gauge in car? exhaust as quiet as everyone says? Maybe it had some addons and a tune. more then double the pounds of boost on OE everything is a bit much to swallow IMO.

 

[MADDOG11]

Several reputable forum members have already stated the transmission wont hold over 400 foot pounds of torque according to ford. I'm not saying your the one bullshitting, but the rep could have been. Was there an aftermarket boost gauge in car? exhaust as quiet as everyone says? Maybe it had some addons and a tune. more then double the pounds of boost on OEM everything is a bit much to swallow IMO.

No boost guage anywhere. Just going on what the guy told me and showed me (ie. roadtest). I'm sure the, "the transmission wont hold over 400 foot pounds of torque" is correct. However, as he stated, this is a prototype, is almost illegal on the street, vehicle is being trailered in and veh will be crushed when all done (****** me off).

Exhaust is barely noticable!

 

[Huntervf]

In some discussions I had back in late Jan before the launch, it was suggested that, during testing, the main "brick wall" the engineers would run into regarding increased horsepower was fuel delivery. Apparently on the existing setup, fuel starvation became a critical issue before anything else when it came to upping the boost.

Of course, these were some of the higher level engineers, so they tended to stay very vague as far as where they thought the "fuses" were in the powertrain.

And if the exhaust was barely noticeable, I'm a bit skeptical about 23 psi. You don't add that kind of boost while keeping the exhaust note barely noticeable. Doesn't have to be ear-shattering, but you'd notice it.

 

[MADDOG11]

I should have said compared to mine (92 mtx) it is barely noticable.