Unbeliveable Clutch story

[dantheman68]

NO thats just the clutch kit...

and i realize thats alot, but like i said i really dont care at this point... $500 for a clutch that actually works in my car is better than $400 for one that nearly destroys it

oh and a side note... my uncle is the owner of the shop and he did all the work on it (as the "master" mechanic) and when i went in to pick it up, all of the other mechanics who kinda know me and have intrest in my car were like "how did you do that on your garage floor!!" and they all were very interested in the SHOs

 

[SASHO91]

ouch man....

could of got a CM3 for 470....

either way. glad its back and running.

 

[dantheman68]

ouch man....

could of got a CM3 for 470....

either way. glad its back and running.

yeah i know that, but like i said, im just happy to have it running again, and the security that if something does happen again i wont have to go through this... i added the second part in an edit probably after you read my post, but i think the 400 for the SPEC kit was more a waste of money than the zoom kit

 

[terminator]

I'm having a same problem,i just put in the clutch and same result.The cluth only has little over 1100miles.I had over 4yrs of spec clutch 2stage and never had a problem until now.Is there a refund or exchange?

 

[dantheman68]

no but if you find something out, let me know, because i have seen nothing so far...

 

[dantheman68]

OK... i finally got some pictures to post... wow its been awhile...

keep in mind that the flywheel was reground level... it was something like .0012 out of flatness... i wonder if SPEC will belive me... *thinks* :laugh_ti:


In the first pic here... you can see how the inside of the clutch disk is nearly brand new... and im not sure if you can tell... but the outside edge of the disk is very smooth... like WAY TOO smooth

here is the inside of the pressure plate... can anyone tell which half grabbed the disk and which half NEVER touched it...

This is one of the pins on the pressure plate that nearly destroyed my tranny... they were a bit too long, so the webbing on the inside of the tranny cleaned them off for me

Another... sorry about the blurry pictures... its a new camera that i havent figured out yet... you can kinda see how the pin isnt the same as the one that was previously posted

ANNND the finally.... again... which side did the PP grab???

yeap... theyre gonna be hearing from me soon...

do yourself a favor... if you bought a SPEC clutch in the last group buy conducted by SuperMattyP.... atleast check your PP pins before putting it in

 

[Paul]

Perhaps this is a negative aspect of doing a "group buy". Spec may of had to throw together more assemblies than they would normally keep on the shelf and the end result was hastily, rushed assemblies that that went out the door with there fingers crossed.

 

[Paul]

Those rivets appear to be installed upside down.

 

[Howdy_Doody]

If you ask me...the pressure plate was hung up on the flywheel dowel pins and wasn't fully seated. That would explain the weird wear pattern on the flywheel.

 

[dantheman68]

... nope i triple checked that when installing it... even with a feeler gauge... no gap

 

[Howdy_Doody]

That was my first thougt, but since you verified...that's the stock Valeo pressure plate that has been disassembled, powder coated, possibly modified for more clamp load, and reassembled. It's a tricky process, and if they goofed somewhere in the process it would cause the problems you're seeing.

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Have you put a straight edge on the flywheel, or the PP?

Who knows...

Also, if you mate the PP to the flywheel as it is, does it sit flat, with no gaps?

 

[shopartsnw]

Are the half circle marks from pulling the dowel pins? It is tough to see in the pictures.

Looks like they forgot to hammer the rivet on the pressure plate straps??

- Mike

 

[dantheman68]

Looks like they forgot to hammer the rivet on the pressure plate straps??

- Mike

yeah... thats my biggest complaint, and i think i have the most leverage with that since i have no way of proving to them that it was installed correctly... but i do have proof that their piece was defective, since it nearly tore apart my tranny... which i wish i had pictures of...

 

[egroce11]

Humor me and measure the diameter of the clutch disk. just a thought let me know the size.

 

[shopartsnw]

You can see the clutch disk in the first picture. It comes right up agaist the casting / pressure plate, so I would say it is the correct sized disk.

Strange problem indeed.

The wear pattern is really getting me.

I second the vote for a straight edge measurement across the flywheel and pressure plate.

- Mike

 

[egroce11]

Let me rephrase the measurement question. I know the clutch material is looking like it is the right size, I caught a clutch reman. Co. in utah that was using the small disc plate and just putting clutch material out to the right size leaving a portion of the material with nothing but air in between the two pieces. I'm not the best at explaining things while typeing. What I was thinking of measuring is the metal portion of the disk that the clutch material is mounted to.

Sorry I should hve stated the part of the disk I was interested in.

This is a strange problem on what the wear patern is.

 

[terminator]

I talk to spec clutch today,told me and find out super matty p full name or what name is the group buy name under?So spec can help us!

 

[RStalveyARFF]

I didn't see anyone else ask it, did you use loc-tite? Judging by the rust on the mating side of the pressure plate it looks as if the side without heat damage never touched the flywheel.

 

[dantheman68]

yeah i used loctite