Turn signal inop, software fix.

[Johnbigdog]

If you experience the turn signals becoming inoperative where you use the lane change function one way, then full turn the other, there is a software update for the Steering Column Control Module.

The software update will not change the as-built so if you customized it for more than 3 flashes, it doesn't affect this.

 

[98SF19]

DISCLAIMER: I own a Gen3 so this doesn't apply to me, and my post below is tangentially off-topic . . .
Caught part of a radio program today where the guest caller was describing an imminent future in which the software needed to run vehicles will reach an end of life point much earlier than conventional cars would normally last. After that, you'll basically have a mechanically sound hunk of useless junk. Do you think the manufacturers will grant license for 3rd party access to their software? Why would they when they'll all be in cahoots to make you buy a nice new shiny vehicle?

Anyway, sorry to hijack the post, I just hope folks today appreciate the liberty we have to do repairs, upgrades, etc. on our older cars.

 

[Johnbigdog]

Well, there are plenty of old 1970s cars with modules that work.

I'm concerned when these modules fail and who will fix them, or come up with bypass systems.

Autonomous vehicles are a different matter, but those updates will be mostly over the air I think. But this comes down to if the modules work.

 

[Pvster]

DISCLAIMER: I own a Gen3 so this doesn't apply to me, and my post below is tangentially off-topic . . .
Caught part of a radio program today where the guest caller was describing an imminent future in which the software needed to run vehicles will reach an end of life point much earlier than conventional cars would normally last. After that, you'll basically have a mechanically sound hunk of useless junk. Do you think the manufacturers will grant license for 3rd party access to their software? Why would they when they'll all be in cahoots to make you buy a nice new shiny vehicle?

Anyway, sorry to hijack the post, I just hope folks today appreciate the liberty we have to do repairs, upgrades, etc. on our older cars.

You are quite the fear monger... have you bothered to research this topic? All of what you just posted is patently false. See here for an example: http://www.bodyshopbusiness.com/aut...ent-exhaustion-major-victory-repair-industry/

https://resource-recycling.com/e-scrap/2017/06/01/supreme-court-decision-aids-repair-industry/

http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2015/11/0...ive-software-jailbreaking-smart-tvs/id=62834/

That's just for starters. I would say those that like to modify or tinker with vehicles are in an even better place than ever before. The question becomes, will most tinkerers be willing to learn software related skills? For newer generations, that is a resounding yes. For those older generations, not so much.

 

[Lostneye]

I wouldn't exactly call it false. Overblown maybe but it is real and a big deal in the farming industry and John Deere is mentioned in at least one of your references. They may have lost some legal standing buy try buying a expensive piece of equipment from John Deere without signing your right to repair away.

 

[Pvster]

I wouldn't exactly call it false. Overblown maybe but it is real and a big deal in the farming industry and John Deere is mentioned in at least one of your references. They may have lost some legal standing buy try buying a expensive piece of equipment from John Deere without signing your right to repair away.

At this point, it is false from a legal perspective. Now, if someone is willing to sign their rights to repair away as part of a sale, then that is on them. I imagine that would need to be challenged in court to determine if that will stand. Based on precedent from other court cases barring similar types of practices I'd wager likely not.

I've dealt with John Deere before, their antics lost a few resellers and customers within my old family and neighbors.