Tokico substitute

[silversho89]

So with the Tokicos now being discontinued, whats an alternatve for lowering springs without going to konis?

Ive heard of people using monroe sensatracs but ive heard even more that they are not up to the task of dampening with lowering springs.

Thanks,

Rob

 

[Ishodu]

Konis are all we have right now that will take the abuse of lowering springs. Lots of people try others but they will not take it.

 

[silversho89]

Thats sucks to hear. I really dont feel like spending 600 bucks to modify my stock struts just to get a stiff ride.

Rob

 

[NotSoSlowSHO]

Yep, dont try the sensatracs on lowering coils.

The Konis are all we've got anymore.

 

[silversho89]

Terrrrrrible!

 

[Shoaz]

Thats sucks to hear. I really dont feel like spending 600 bucks to modify my stock struts just to get a stiff ride.

If you don't want a stiff ride, you don't want stiff springs. So, in that case, you're pretty much stuck with stock springs, and for those the Sensatracs or KYBs are fine. The new quick-struts are a nice way to go, IMHO.

If you do want aftermarket springs, then you need shocks that are adequate to damp them. For the most part that's Tokicos and Konis.

There've been plenty of people who've put Eibachs or Intrax on stock struts, though, apparently without too much trouble.

 

[ACV1081]

I've had/been in both setups (koni/ss linears, tokico/intrax) and the koni/ss setup is far better IMHO b/c of the adjustability. I crank the konis down and voila inta bone jarring and even more rattles... I dial the **** the other way and smoother ride than the intrax/tokico ever was. Best of the best the way I look at it.

 

[SHO Continental]

my '93 is riding on tokicos in the rear and gabriels up front.. one of the front tokicos was dead when I bought my set and tokico didn't feel like replacing it. So now I'm stuck until I can get a set of koni's. It rides fine like this, the front gets 1 or 2 bounces in though on harsh roads sometimes.

 

[SHO Dude]

FWIW, we offer Eibach's with KYB's. Works pretty well.

 

[Brent]

This totally sucks balls bigtime.
Now when the tokicos go on Bull. I have to get the koni's for the eibach's that are on him now.

 

[Shoaz]

There's been some discussion that some of the later Tokicos were made with inserts, and that the inserts may still be a stock item at Tokico. In other words, if you have a set and they're failing, you may be able to get the insert replaced, but not the entire strut.

I've been curious about this but haven't heard much follow-up from anyone who's tried to go that route. The Tokicos on my silver car are still quite fresh, so they won't be needing attention for a long time.

 

[Minnesho]

There's been some discussion that some of the later Tokicos were made with inserts, and that the inserts may still be a stock item at Tokico. In other words, if you have a set and they're failing, you may be able to get the insert replaced, but not the entire strut.

I've been curious about this but haven't heard much follow-up from anyone who's tried to go that route. The Tokicos on my silver car are still quite fresh, so they won't be needing attention for a long time.

I've also been curious about this as well but have never been able to get the facts straight. I've heard that the newer tokicos have a universal cartridge that would still be in production. so if anyone knows the facts this is the place to tell us!

 

[SHO Continental]

I've also been curious about this as well but have never been able to get the facts straight. I've heard that the newer tokicos have a universal cartridge that would still be in production. so if anyone knows the facts this is the place to tell us!

I might be able to pull my dead/new tokico apart and see what it's made of.

 

[Off Road SHO]

I might be able to pull my dead/new tokico apart and see what it's made of.

Make darn sure that it's de-pressurized first. That would definitely leave a scar.

Tom

 

[sdpatt]

There's been some discussion that some of the later Tokicos were made with inserts, and that the inserts may still be a stock item at Tokico. In other words, if you have a set and they're failing, you may be able to get the insert replaced, but not the entire strut.

I've been curious about this but haven't heard much follow-up from anyone who's tried to go that route. The Tokicos on my silver car are still quite fresh, so they won't be needing attention for a long time.

The answer to the question is, "Yes, the SHO's Tokicos are made with inserts."

After speaking with Tokico again regarding the warranty replacement of my failed front strut, I was given the solution of just replacing the strut insert. Raymond, the customer service representative of Tokico (800-548-2549 ext 3516), provided the following part numbers for the SHO-specific Tokico struts. Jack Mardi of Fast Track (714-641-0116), the designated Tokico warranty service distributor, can provide these cartridges under warranty coverage. They can be installed by removing the top nut on the casing, removing the old cartridge, inserting the new cartridge and tightening the nut.

Front Tokico Cartridge: P/N HZ3130
Rear Tokico Cartridge: P/N HZ3131

 

[ACV1081]

The answer to the question is, "Yes, the SHO's Tokicos are made with inserts."

After speaking with Tokico again regarding the warranty replacement of my failed front strut, I was given the solution of just replacing the strut insert. Raymond Mardi of Tokico (800-548-2549 ext 3516) provided the following part numbers for the SHO-specific Tokico struts. These can be installed by removing the top nut on the casing, removing the old cartridge, inserting the new cartridge and tightening the nut.

Front Tokico Cartridge: P/N HZ3130
Rear Tokico Cartridge: P/N HZ3131

Scott, to add to your input I will say the rust belt folks will have some fun getting the cartridges out. I had a set that failed and luckily this was pre-discontinued status as every attempt I made to get the cartridge out failed. Tokico tried to have me remove the cartridges even then to avoid sending all new housings and inserts. This was with a full mechanic's shop tools and tricks at my disposal. Good luck to anyone that has some miles and/or winters on their tokicos.




Adam

 

[SHOtimer]

Scott, to add to your input I will say the rust belt folks will have some fun getting the cartridges out. I had a set that failed and luckily this was pre-discontinued status as every attempt I made to get the cartridge out failed. Tokico tried to have me remove the cartridges even then to avoid sending all new housings and inserts. This was with a full mechanic's shop tools and tricks at my disposal. Good luck to anyone that has some miles and/or winters on their tokicos.
Adam

Makes me glad I live in Cali, and my SHO doesn't know what rust or corrosion is.....

Doug

 

[RJ-92]

Why all teh ********? People are whining that all we have is Konis. Really? I love my Konis. Worth ever penny over the Tokicos. What's the difference $80? If i could do it again and the Koni's were 2x the Tokicos I wouldn't hesitate to get them again.

BTW, they are gaurenteed for life. I have had mine on for 7 years and not one problem. I have seen more than one set of Tokicos crap out after < 3 years.

 

[ACV1081]

Why all teh biotching? People are whining that all we have is Konis. Really? I love my Konis. Worth ever penny over the Tokicos. What's the difference $80? If i could do it again and the Koni's were 2x the Tokicos I wouldn't hesitate to get them again.

BTW, they are gaurenteed for life. I have had mine on for 7 years and not one problem. I have seen more than one set of Tokicos crap out after < 3 years.

I didn't mention the fact that I have konis on my SHO... the tokicos were my old daily driver. I adore the **** adjustment on the konis, and IMO they are a much better choice. However, if I remember correctly the tokicos used to be signifigantly less expensive and also more user friendly compared to the konis.

 

[Paul]

Am I wrong? Eibachs are weaker than GOOD stock springs.