SHOspazz92
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The reason it went away was because people were bending control arms with it, IIRC.
Spring Blocks, Or coilovers sound like a better solution.
-Sam
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The reason it went away was because people were bending control arms with it, IIRC.
Spring Blocks, Or coilovers sound like a better solution.
-Sam
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
Coilovers won't be stiff enough....unless you put in some wild-ass spring rate that is unstreetable. Put a solid bar in out by the wheel from the knuckle, or something solid, up to the body to eliminate ALL suspension travel. Remove when you leave the track.
IMO, and slightly-off topic: if coilovers are properly designed, the low (soft) setting should have enough dampening for the springs used. Unfortunately, most on the market don't do that. If they are done properly, they wouldn't be stiff enough to stop all rear-end movement.
The methods of the 8-9-10-11-second FWD drag cars have been out there for years. Not all the "ricer" methods are dumb!!
600lb springs should keep the rear from squatting too much. Plus, adding lightness is great. The less weight, the less that will transfer. I certainly do not want to turn my track car into a strip car, but some spring blocks (to make a theoretical rate of 800-900lbs) that could be removed after the strip should work well enough.
Plus, I am keeping some 12.5" rotors/brackets so that I can run 16's with drag radials when at the strip. Even with moderate power, a lightweight turbo SHO should be able to run some quick times. If I ever build one, I will get back with you.
Plus, I am keeping some 12.5" rotors/brackets so that I can run 16's with drag radials when at the strip. Even with moderate power, a lightweight turbo SHO should be able to run some quick times. If I ever build one, I will get back with you.
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
Eliminating any squat at all should prevent that momentary weight transfer when the tires want to break loose.
Doing some strip-only solid bars always seemed to me like the easiest plan, even with a near-stock suspension.
Allthough im not expert i think tim is more likly to hit 11's if he hooks up without snapping a axle. Spring blocks as well as Ron's idea is what i think would put you (tim) into the 11's. Now that i get to thinking about it has there ever been a sho (gen1,2,3) to the forums or anyone els's knowledge to hit 11's or even a low 12?
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
No one has, but as I mentioned before, it hasn't been an issue of power......it's been an issue of getting it to the ground. Getting those 60' times down has been lacking. None of the blown cars I've seen lack the power, judging by their trap speeds.
I went to commerce for a test and tune night with a couple friends yesterday and my friend mark was trapping 119 in his evo runnning a 11 sec quarter. Considering the insane trap speeds our sho's are capable of 11's with even a 1.9 or 1.8 60ft time. His 60 foot time where only 1.6 but maybe one day there will be more of a gauging interest for somekind of brace that either shosource or another person would be interested in making.
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Ocnaj
SHOcomotive
If I ever get my project done I am definitely in on this. Maybe I'll throw a 150 shot on the '90.
RonPorter
SHO Club of America
That's actually a low 60' for an 11-second & 109. I did 1.8s with 13.39 - 13.50 at only 98-99 traps speeds. If I went to Stage 2, which is simply a down & midpipe (plus another map load), trap speeds jump to 103-106, and guys are high 12s. I suspect their 60' times stay in the 1.7 - 1.8 range with Stage 2, as LGTs don't have limited-slips F&R (only in the rear on mine) like the STIs do.
SHOtime2511
CGP
I ran my 1/4 track times with spring blocks in the rear,It helped quite a bit with my crappy stock suspension.
Where did you buy them from?
SHOtime2511
CGP
SHObill had some for sale a few years ago.
SHOtime2511
CGP
I think the ones AZ and advance carry just give you a little lift,more of a truck thing.
whiteguy3
Scott MacIntire
^lol...That you do. Funny where that extra trans is too.
mosho93
Well-Known Member
ONLY 1.6? Are you serious..?
But like Ron said, it has NEVER been an issue of power with boosted SHO's, it's a matter of hooking up. I don't think I foresee 1.8 60 ft times in a FWD SHO, ever.
When I used to have my SRT4 with roughly 250-260 whp, I was running 24.5" MT's slicks. I personally had about 20-30 track runs with them and was eventually able to get down the correct tire pressure, proper burnout to heat them up, and the launch RPM. I would do my burnouts in 2nd gear, otherwise they wouldn't get hot enough to stick, ran about 11psi (before burnout obviously), and if I remember right, I launched around 4500 with a slight clutch slip and feathering the throttle a bit. I was able to squeak in a few 1.8's and resulted in 12.8 @ 106. For being a FWD car, I just remember how surprised I was with how hard this 1.8's 60' put me into my seat. I can't imagine a 1.6 AWD launch...
whiteguy3
Scott MacIntire
It's been done, on different occasions and different cars, but we won't get into that.
As stated it's not a power issue, it's getting it to the ground. I could probably say a sho with the right setup at 10psi, correctly tuned and a 2.0 60ft could hit 12's.
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