The Last Word on Express Down Modules

[alfitz]

I just finished taking the express module that controls the passenger door,
out of the driver's door. Instead I installed it in the passenger door and now
both the driver and passenger have the express down feature.

That worked so well, I installed two more in the back doors with the same
result. I'm thinking of installing 4 more for the express up feature. I may
even install a master switch to control all windows, up or down, with a single
button.

But first, I will install one in the moon roof console.

 

[Slo-Sho]

Guys and gals, that really is the last word. I've known people to use TWO modules to achieve the same result. Thanks for saving me $15.

 

[DJ SHO]

Al, Let us know when if u get the one on the moonroof to work. I've been toying with that idea for a long time. I'd really like to get the roof to open AND close with express capabilites.

And as for the express up feature for the windows, I've figured out a wiring diagram to integrate the additonal module to do the auto up mode. I just don't have another module right now to try it out.

Keep up updated. Thanks.

 

[SHO92]

Al, are you saying that if you install a module in the passengers door that the driver and passenger will both be able to put the passengers window down with the express feature? I have 2 modules in the drivers door, but the passengers switch itself isn't one touch, just the drivers switch. I hope this makes sense.

 

[SuperG]

Not to put a damper on your idea, but isn't an express up feature dangerous? I imagine it is easy for someone to get their fingers caught, or worse yet, some kids' neck...

 

[ohioshodude]

i think what Al means is that he had both modules in the drivers door like shotimes tell you to do. but then he took the second one out and put it in the passanger side door. now the switch on that door and the switch on the drivers door are both express down. this is how my 4 are set up as well. i have one in each door of the car and all have express down feature at any button.

phew.. lol hope that made sense

<small>[ June 16, 2003, 02:00 PM: Message edited by: ohioshodude ]</small>

 

[DJ SHO]

SuperG:
Not to put a damper on your idea, but isn't an express up feature dangerous? I imagine it is easy for someone to get their fingers caught, or worse yet, some kids' neck...

Well, that's the reason they don't make American cars with them. It can be considered dangerous, however, the express modules will stop voltage supply once the window motor's current increases to a certain level. This happens when the motor gets stopped. The window gets to thebottom, the wondow/motor stop/ the current goes up, the module shuts off. Same deal if something was stuck in the way if it were doing express-up. If something stopped the window, the module would shut off.

 

[SHO Mojo]

Re: Express up and American Mfg cars...

My Dad's 2003 Cadillac CTS has express up on both front windows, express down on all four.

FYI,

Steve C.

 

[DJ SHO]

I think Gm is starting to do this now. But for until now American cars never really had auto up windows.

 

[FAST4DR]

Our new Altima has express up/down front windows and is made in America. Does that count? The GM are probably made in Mexico.

Doesn't make sense does it.

 

[jelloslug]

My thought on the lack express up would be that it has more to do with the sue happy American populus that anything else. "I'm sueing Ford because I wrecked my car! While driving my Explorer 50 MPH in the fast lane with my head out the window talking on my cell phone and drinking a hot coffee from McDonalds I dropped my phone on the express up button and got my head cought in the window which caused me to scalled my crotch and perform high speed lane changes and blow my under inflated Firestone tires out and flip my big lumbering SUV in to a bus full of nuns."

 

[quadmasta]

jelloslug:
My thought on the lack express up would be that it has more to do with the sue happy American populus that anything else. "I'm sueing Ford because I wrecked my car! While driving my Explorer 50 MPH in the fast lane with my head out the window talking on my cell phone and drinking a hot coffee from McDonalds I dropped my phone on the express up button and got my head cought in the window which caused me to scalled my crotch and perform high speed lane changes and blow my under inflated Firestone tires out and flip my big lumbering SUV in to a bus full of nuns."

lol lol lol lol lol lol

 

[Bizzy]

I wired up express up and down to my front passenger window, and I'm going out to the nearest pick your own parts junkyard on monday to secure 5 more express modules.

A few ppl at the Northeast TCCA meet I was at today kinda liked it. Once you figure out excatly what needs to be done it works like magic.

It is soooo kickass having express down on the front windows. It is so much easier to just click ones and forget it. Going back up is just as nice.

 

[DJ SHO]

netviper:
I wired up express up and down to my front passenger window, and I'm going out to the nearest pick your own parts junkyard on monday to secure 5 more express modules.

A few ppl at the Northeast TCCA meet I was at today kinda liked it. Once you figure out excatly what needs to be done it works like magic.

It is soooo kickass having express down on the front windows. It is so much easier to just click ones and forget it. Going back up is just as nice.

I would like to see a pic of your schematic for the auto up wiring to see if mine matches.

 

[SHOck]

Putting express module access to the passengers is not the greatest idea, as they will not be expecting it's behaviour, even when you tell them about it. Plus, yes, children in the backseat, head out the window, hit the button by accident... (hopefully not while you are driving down the road, but no safer) ...not a good combo.

A much "safer" method is to install these devices at the driver control. The driver will get the express features, but the passengers will not. I've installed several aftermarket sets this way and it eliminates the possibility of accident, yet the driver still gets express functionality. I have also installed a one-button "emergency up" button for some people, it's very easy to do with aftermarket window control modules. No idea on the oem units. Shouldn't be too difficult to do, though.

 

[Bizzy]

bahh safety who needs it. I went one step further and installed buttons labeled "AUTO" on all windows that have express up or down.

Anyone gets something stuck in my windows is gonna get kicked outta my car. If I had kids or something I might pe concerned about it, but if any of my friends get stuck in the window, they be getting out.

 

[DJ SHO]

netviper:
Anyone gets something stuck in my windows is gonna get kicked outta my car. If I had kids or something I might pe concerned about it, but if any of my friends get stuck in the window, they be getting out.

I agree. If someone's that stupid to put something, like thier head or arm, in the way of the window while it's going up, they deserved it. And if u had children in the car, use the window lock button for cryin out loud.

 

[SHOck]

Window lock is not feasable when the kids are in the back and the wife is in the passenger seat. For crying out loud.

 

[Markus]

SHOck:
Window lock is not feasable when the kids are in the back and the wife is in the passenger seat. For crying out loud.

It should be fairly simple to change this. Then the lockout switch will work on just the rear windows.

After thinking about this for a few minutes I've decided that I really don't want to not be able to lock out my wife's front window. She's always putting it up - something to do with her hair, I think.

 

[Markus]

DJ SHO:

SuperG:
Not to put a damper on your idea, but isn't an express up feature dangerous? I imagine it is easy for someone to get their fingers caught, or worse yet, some kids' neck...

Well, that's the reason they don't make American cars with them. It can be considered dangerous, however, the express modules will stop voltage supply once the window motor's current increases to a certain level. This happens when the motor gets stopped. The window gets to thebottom, the wondow/motor stop/ the current goes up, the module shuts off. Same deal if something was stuck in the way if it were doing express-up. If something stopped the window, the module would shut off.

The express-up windows I have experienced on European GM cars (Vauxhall Astra/Vectra) both stop AND go all the way back down when a restriction is determined. This feature is not available when using Ford's express-down modules as express-up modules.

The last Focus I rented in the UK had power windows for the front windows and manual windows for the rear windows. This must be a weight/cost saving feature shrug