Subwoffer for Stock JBL System

[Shobigjdn]

I have a 95 SHO with the JBL system eek! . I busted the subwoffer and I am looking for a replacement. It is the 6.5 subwoffer that can stock with the car. I still have all of the box and hardware I just need that speaker. If anyone knows where I could get one please let me know!!! I really would apperciate it. Thanks!
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[SHOZ123]

The PIONEER C16LR20-51F will drop right in and is about $25 from Parts Express

 

[NorthernSHO]

JL Audio makes a 6.5 inch subwoofer. It is the 6W0 model and I'm sure if you go to their site you will be able to check it out. I have one in my car in the factory location.

 

[94mtx]

i have heard that a 8" sub will fit in the factory box with some minor trimming.

jon

 

[BlackOnBlackATX]

i had an 8inch in there on my SHO, i just sold the box on ebay about a week ago since i moved up to a bigger one. takes about 20 minutes to trim the box, stuff some polyfill in there and it will pop right in. i had a rockford punch in there, sounded badass!

 

[stevetatro]

"The PIONEER C16LR20-51F will drop right in and is about $25 from Parts Express"

I put this exact driver in my sub enclosure box and was very, very UNhappy with the sound. It bolted in fine, although it was not quite as deep as the stock JBL driver. The sound was not good.

I'm guessing the problem is the 8-ohm driver where the amp is expecting a 6-ohm. Shouldn't create a huge problem, but it didn't sound good at all.

I've since replaced the driver with a used stock JBL I got from someone (used my box) and it's back to normal. I just can't believe what a difference between the stock JBL and this Pioneer, but I heard it with my own ears. Even my wife noticed it (and that means it was drastic).

I currently have the Pioneer driver for sale, if you want it. I would've returned it but I lost the box. I also have a spare used (not blown) stock JBL sub in good condition for sale.

 

[gren95atx]

NorthernSHO - i was thinking about doing a JL 6W0 in the stock sub location too. it'd be running off a 150watt rms amp (not the stock jbl)... how do you think it compares to, say, a 10w0 in the typical ported box? am i going to be disappointed with the output and kicking myself for not building a box /w a 10w0? i'm trying to minimize the amount of weight i add to the car - so using a 6w0 in the stock location would definately accomplish that.

stevetatro - the $25 pioneer probably mostly sucked due to the fact you were putting an 8" speaker in a box designed acousticly for a 6.5"...

<small>[ January 24, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: gren95atx ]</small>

 

[BlackOnBlackATX]

gren95atx raises a good point, whichever speaker you buy you need to make sure it is made for the amount of free cubic feet in that sealed box. if i recall there is .8 cubic feet in that box. the rockford i had was made for .75-1 cubic foot, so it sounded good, but some other speakers may not be up to the task. let us know what you do.

 

[Mongo]

Fellas, I'd recommend a search on the topic. A formerly prolific poster (I think he's currently covering our ass in the waters off Iraq) gave me advice on a sub that fits in the JBL box. I never followed up, but it's out there!

 

[SHO92]

gren95atx:
NorthernSHO - i was thinking about doing a JL 6W0 in the stock sub location too. it'd be running off a 150watt rms amp (not the stock jbl)... how do you think it compares to, say, a 10w0 in the typical ported box? am i going to be disappointed with the output and kicking myself for not building a box /w a 10w0? i'm trying to minimize the amount of weight i add to the car - so using a 6w0 in the stock location would definately accomplish that.

stevetatro - the $25 pioneer probably mostly sucked due to the fact you were putting an 8" speaker in a box designed acousticly for a 6.5"...

A 6" in a sealed enclouser compared to a 10" in a ported enclosuer is comparing apples to oranges. A 10" in a sealed enclosuer really couldn't compare to the 6" either. If you are looking for the boom of a 10" ported, you will most definitely be dissappointed by the 6" in the factory enclouser. FWIW, I had an 8" mtx in the stock enclosure powered by a 120w sony amp. It sounded ok, but when I upgraded to a single Kicker Solobaric(the old round style... the good ones wink and a 300w Alpine V12 Expert, the difference was incredible. If I wanted to boom, I could, but with a moderate amount of gain on the amp, it was very musical and not too loud at all.

<small>[ January 25, 2003, 11:30 PM: Message edited by: SHO92 ]</small>

 

[stevetatro]

Originally posted by gren95atx: "stevetatro - the $25 pioneer probably mostly sucked due to the fact you were putting an 8" speaker in a box designed acousticly for a 6.5"

Wrong. The Pioneer is also a 6.5" sub. It bolts right in, hooks right up, but IMO sounds like crap. There have been numerous people indicating that it's a great, cheap replacement, but I just want to add my $0.02. I think it sucks.

Maybe others who have used this Pioneer as a replacement just don't remember how good the stock JBL sounded (for a 6.5" driver) waaay back when it was new.

I've also heard of 2 people who have put 8" drivers into the stock box (designed obviously for the 6.5" JBL) and have been happy.

I think the only way to be happy after replacing the sub with something other than the stock JBL 6.5" is to replace the amp that drives it at the same time.

 

[NorthernSHO]

gren95atx:
NorthernSHO - i was thinking about doing a JL 6W0 in the stock sub location too. it'd be running off a 150watt rms amp (not the stock jbl)... how do you think it compares to, say, a 10w0 in the typical ported box? am i going to be disappointed with the output and kicking myself for not building a box /w a 10w0? i'm trying to minimize the amount of weight i add to the car - so using a 6w0 in the stock location would definately accomplish that.

stevetatro - the $25 pioneer probably mostly sucked due to the fact you were putting an 8" speaker in a box designed acousticly for a 6.5"...

Hey Green95ATX...sorry for the delayed post. I think it all depends on what kind of music you listen to and what type of bass you are looking for. Honestly the JL 6W0 does not sound all that different than the stock JBL sub. Now don't get me wrong, it is more clear, crisp, and hits the lows much nicer but it is not going to shake the car are kick you in the **** like a 10W0 in a ported box will.

If you are looking for a nice replacement for the factory JBL sub with a little more bass and nicer sound...the JL 6W0 is a nice speaker. I am powering mine with a 180watt MTX amp right now and it works nicely. I went that way because I wanted to save weight, save room in my truck, keep my insurace (theft) down, and I just wanted nice clean bass.

 

[SHOnuff93]

Steve Tatro, that JBL woofer workin ok for ya? thats good, but i still havent gotten the $30 for it. if you could please e-mail me and let me know the status that would be great, thanks

Tyler

 

[mrjfranklin]

My factory sub quit working, I took it out and noticed that the lead wire was loose causing it not to work. I took it to a local stero/speaker repair shop and had it repaired for $25.00. Sounds good as new. I bet this is a common problem, since I don't believe the stock system has enough power to blow the sub.

 

[GreenSleeper]

But the stock sub is a cheap little paper cone. Give it some years and some heat, and they will go south on you. Just took mine out, and the foam had totally separated from the cone all the way around. Looking into putting an 8" in to replace it.

 

[shoteen95]

wow this thread was old...

i can't wait for christmas

8inch polk momo sub
236 continuous watt jbl amp
hooked up to my average panasonic HU

It's in the mail baby!

 

[93medusa]

The Pioneer "sub" sounds bad for multiple reasons, first is that it is not a sub at all, that is a midrange driver for home audio use. That is a TERRIBLE choice for replacing the stock sub. I couldn't find that exact sub on partsexpress, but the two Pioneer 6.5s I did find only played into the 50 hz range. Of course it sucked! You want something with response into the 30's for a subwoofer of any type. Secondly, the higher impeadance of the Pioneer is going to give you less output from your stock amp, therefore, less bass!

Your best bet is to find a 6.5 or 8 inch sub, suited to a .35 cubic foot sealed enclosure. If you get a 6.5 inch sub, it should give you at least comparble output to the stock unit if not better, an 8 inch unit should give improved response. Add an aftermarket amp, and you can have a pretty kicking system with an 8 inch sub in the stock box.

 

[stevemainian]

Could you replce the stock amp with an aftermarket amp, and still use all the stock wires(power and audio - of course some splicing would have to be done)? WHat type of power can the power wires handle and what guage is the stock wires? I do not need a powerfuul amp, just a 100-150watt RMS.

 

[93medusa]

Don't try to use the stock wires for power. It won't be adequate. It'll cause less headaches if you just run a wire directly from the battery to the amplifier. Running power is actually a very simple task. As far as getting signal, you should be able to grab it right from the jumper that goes between the two amps.

 

[Brandontw]

i have 4 10" subs in a ported box witha 2800 watt RMS amp, it hurts....just thought id let you know